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this hope radio for the masses Atlanta

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between July 8 1947 we're on the airport

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with open arms and applying this has

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been found and is now in the possession

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of the RA the game is rigged change the

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game changer I occasionally think how

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quickly our differences worldwide would

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vanish if we were facing an alien threat

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fade to black with your host Jimmy

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church on the GameChanger radio network

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your help

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you listening today too

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with jimmy touch or the game change in

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well well well here we go fade to black

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the spoke radio for Masse's how you doin

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today's Wednesday December 19th of 2018

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300 and

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the three days into the new year Jeff

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of the beautiful downtown

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Burbank California and I would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world

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all across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south

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far and near this is fade to black

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for Kate JCR the game changer Network

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and K G RA the planets I am your host

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Amy Church what is cracking everybody

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how you doing

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Wow that's right five

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the number is five that's right

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tonight is our fifth anniversary and

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six and for that and our last guest of

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Richard bleep and Dolan that's right

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what what what a great night we have in

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front of us it's our last guest of 2018

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it's our fifth anniversary you know

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three things going on tonight if you if

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you really think about it it's our fifth

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anniversary it's show number 968 it's

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the first day of our sixth year and also

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this is our last guest of the year all

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of that all wrapped up into one show our

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guest is Richard Dolan it's good to be

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here at the bottom of the hour and then

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tomorrow night is a Thursday night Fator

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night and we'll celebrate we'll take all

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of your phone calls tomorrow night and

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and we'll talk about all of that

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tomorrow night on the show all right

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open lines Theresa and Aris divine

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frequency on the airwaves will be here

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okay now follow us on twitter at JT

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radio and I like that v you got that

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that's cool follow us on Twitter hashtag

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f2 B is the sandbox you can follow me on

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that is the social media network right

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there on stellar comm register get

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registered if you if you need a promo

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code use my name Jimmy

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simple enough and send me a friend

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request over there okay and start

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posting your stuff and and collect all

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the knowledge that you that you desire

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that you seek on stellar comm of course

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there is Facebook and there is YouTube

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it's all easy to find and then go over

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to Jimmy Church radio.com

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and click on those little buttons right

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now if you want to follow like and

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subscribe any questions or comments

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during the show tonight

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hashtag f2b q you can also email

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throughout the show Jimmy at Jimmy

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Church radio.com alright we've got a lot

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to get to tonight Richard Dolan is our

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guest and first let's get to some

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breaking news pretty amazing stuff going

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on today a report surfaced earlier

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saying that Facebook shared user data

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with more than 150 companies including

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several large technology firms and this

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is according to an internal Facebook

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documents being Microsoft's search

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engine was allowed to see the names of

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virtually all Facebook users friends

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accounts and friends without consent

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this is according to the report while

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Netflix and Spotify were given access to

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your private messages think about that

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for a second now a 2011 consent

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agreement between Facebook and the

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Federal Trade Commission the FTC

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required Facebook to have a

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comprehensive privacy program and to get

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the express consent of users before

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sharing their data Facebook replied

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today saying that the 2011 FTC agreement

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didn't require it to have explicit

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consent for sharing user data with these

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partners platforms because Facebook

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considered them to be extensions of its

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social network where users engage with

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think about that for a second the FTC

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may make a move there may be some

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violations in play think about that at

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least 60 at least 60

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three professional journalists were

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killed during doing their jobs in 2018

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that's right a 15 percent increase over

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last year and this is according to the

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reporters without borders the number of

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deaths rises to 80 when all media

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workers and people classified as citizen

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journalists are included it's incredible

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the world's 5 deadliest countries for

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journalists include for the first time

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the United States unbelievable

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alright next week Wednesday the day

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after Christmas which is December 26th

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fade to black is having our annual

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holiday party at the world famous

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rainbow Bar and Grill on the Sunset

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Strip right here in Hollywood California

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so if you would like to attend it's the

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day after Christmas Wednesday send me an

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email let me know get on the guest list

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okay all right you can go over to our

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Facebook events page and RSVP there too

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as well all right now we are expecting

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yeah a couple of hundred people you know

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it's a it's a holiday party that's what

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we would like to see that's what we're

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expecting now open cash bar it's a cash

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free admission all you've got to do show

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up be on the guest list

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drop my name fade to black you get in to

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the rainbow we booked the entire club

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okay which is a restaurant you can have

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dinner cash bar all of that hang out

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with all of the fate or nots yeah

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there's gonna be some celebs there it's

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gonna be cool lots of researchers and

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and and authors from our community are

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going to be in attendance so come and

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hang out with all of us you're gonna

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walk in a go these are the faces I was

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expecting to see this is really cool and

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all of the face

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that are here in California we've got

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fader knots coming in from around the

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country and you've been hanging out on

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Twitter doing all of that and now you

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can do everything in person right so

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that is next Wednesday night December 26

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at the rainbow Bar & Grill I've been

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getting a lot of emails I'm coming we're

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coming we're gonna be there okay so let

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me know you know let me know if it's

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gonna be a plus 1 plus 3 all of that

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all right and we'll see you next

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Wednesday night and then right after

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that yeah in February come join us of

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the 2019 conscious life Expo right here

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in Los Angeles at the LAX Hilton now

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we've been talking about this this is a

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big event this time around it's always

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big there's 15,000 attendees at the

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conscious life Expo it's a ginormous

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conference and it's so cool to have to

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have so many awakened enlightened people

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in one place you just feel the vibe the

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second you get there all right but this

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year it's extra special because we are

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celebrating the 50th anniversary of

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on Friday night the ancient aliens panel

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Friday night keynote opening panel right

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there setting off the weekend Friday

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night with Eric Linda Moulton Howe Jason

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crackin it's our 5th anniversary today

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today is the first day of year number 6

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and we only do this once a year right so

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get this show crackin happy birthday to

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today Jake Gyllenhaal is 38 years old

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Donnie Darko that's it

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watch Donnie Darko he did it again Brito

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it was so funny last week I'm like you

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know what I'm going there and the reason

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why I did I had just listened to hang

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those Tears for Fears I was like man you

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know what I want to watch Donnie Darko

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Reed is like really as

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yeah and we did we watched it start to

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finish last week with an amazing movie

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Jake Gyllenhaal today is 38 years old

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his sisters in that movie as well Criss

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Angel Mindfreak today is 51 years old

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our dead guy's birthday today

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Edith Piaf 1915 to 1963 died so young at

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the age of 47 French singer-songwriter

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cabaret performer and film actress noted

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as France's national chanteuse and one

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of the country's most widely known

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international stars best known for her

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Grammy Hall of Fame inducted classic La

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Vie en Rose she was raised by

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prostitutes who worked at her mother's

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brothel she worked as a street singer

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after having her first daughter when she

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was just 17 years old and although she

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was decent denied listen to this she was

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tonight a funeral mass by the Cardinal

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Maurice Felton because of her lifestyle

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her funeral procession drew tens of

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thousands of mourners onto the streets

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of Paris and the ceremony at the

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cemetery was attended by more than

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100,000 fans but then on October 10th

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2013 50 years after her death the Roman

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Catholic Church gave her a memorial Mass

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in the saint-jean-baptiste Church in

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Belleville Paris the parish that she was

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born there you go happy birthday

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the Apollo lunar landing program ends on

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December 19th 1972 when the last three

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astronauts to travel to the moon

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splashed down safely allegedly in the

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Pacific Ocean Apollo 17 had lifted off

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from Cape Canaveral Florida ten days

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before happened on this day in 1972

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the FBI followed Einstein that's right

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followed Einstein compiling a 1400 page

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file after branding him a communist

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because he joined an anti-lynching civil

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rights group and that is your fader fact

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tonight our fifth anniversary it is

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Richard bleep and doling

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I almost let it slip I did Richard bleep

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and Dolan

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our last guest of 2018 our guest on our

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fifth anniversary special and on top of

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that he's Richard bleep and Dolan and

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he's our first guess of our sixth year

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tomorrow night is another Fator night

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with Theresa Ian Aris and Devine

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frequency on the airwaves followed by

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open lines all night long right now

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Richard Dolan

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is listening to Mannheim Steamroller but

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he'll say Bach when asked that's funny

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mark that's hilarious you already know

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what my first question is don't you all

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right so check this out I love my

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Rivermen coffee I love my River Moon

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coffee yeah all right so yeah it's our

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fifth anniversary and looking back over

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the last five years with countless

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interviews and phone calls about the UFO

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subject contact sightings and it got me

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thinking and for some reason this week

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I've mentioned the spinning beer-can

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daylight sighting I had up at East

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setting ranch a few times and earlier

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today I watched James Gilliland's latest

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video it's called contact has begun and

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he did it with Peter and and in the

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video I recount the sighting now it's

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kind of weird how the universe works

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right

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just weird how synchronicity happens but

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I did mention it a few times this week

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and I did it with Alexis Brooks too as

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well for some reason it just came up and

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then you know the new video was released

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today and I peeped it out and there I am

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I didn't expect that but there I am

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talking about this sighting right and

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the more that I think about it the more

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incredible it becomes and I'm talking

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about that sighting a daylight sighting

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you see Night Watch is one thing going

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out there with the night-vision goggles

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that's one thing it's incredible right

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it's truly amazing and I get that but

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when you have a real daytime sighting

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with witnesses well that is special and

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it is also the Holy Grail it's big

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league stuff I've talked a lot about the

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green chrome balls and the and the blues

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or Rosie you know we've we've seen these

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things and and these sightings are

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incredible and I've had a lot of them

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I've had some with a Richard Dolan you

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know and it's really cool but a daytime

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sighting all right and for some reason I

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can't get it out of my brain this week I

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see it it was only 15 seconds long

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that's it 15 seconds which is actually

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an eternity when you think about it but

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it was at 3:00 in the afternoon with a

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perfectly blue sky with the direction it

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was heading it shouldn't have been 15

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seconds long it should have been like 5

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10 maybe 15 20 minutes long a viewing

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going across the sky because it was

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moving slow but it just decided to

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disappear but here's the thing I still

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can't get over the shock I can't when it

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first appeared it it was like what you

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don't expect anything like this to

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happen

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and I need to stress this with you right

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when you least expect it you know and

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this is what's most important to me it

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wasn't moving fast it was huge it was

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perfectly in focus and it was lit up by

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the Sun I saw everything and because it

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was moving so slowly from west to east I

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was able to to look at it it wasn't a

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streak it wasn't a flash or something

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that just blasted by for a second or two

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no this was at first you need to

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understand it was huge and second it was

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like that

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just cruising it made itself visible

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that's the only way I can look at it I

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wish that I was able to see it disappear

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I didn't see it I remember looking at it

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through the binoculars right I'm down at

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this table picnic table and I had a

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tripod with my binoculars mounted to

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these huge ginormous celestron my

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binoculars and and I was just looking at

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the mountain so when this is going on I

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look down into the binoculars and you

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know I'm looking and then I go back off

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and I can still see it right I'm like

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wow you know and everybody's talking and

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we're looking and and I go back and it's

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gone and I was like where to go you know

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and I went to move it and it's not there

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and I come up it's gone I didn't see

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disappear where you know it so to say

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that it flew away didn't see it did it

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just dissolve into nothing I didn't see

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it did it just butt and disappear I

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didn't see it I didn't see it disappear

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I didn't see it fly away

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I didn't see what happened to it and

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here's the thing you know I said

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although I still can't get over the

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shock right of it because I didn't get

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to see it and you know end I didn't get

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the I didn't get the resolve I didn't

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get to finish you know and I went back

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to the binoculars it's gone

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the moment has passed and everybody

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around me as I'm just you know I'm

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unbound you know you go from this

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adrenaline to this everybody is saying

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it's gone it just disappeared I looked

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up it's gone it's just a clear boost

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blue sky and the spinning beer-can just

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apparently left as quick as it appeared

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and here's the other thing that needs to

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be understood when we talk about this I

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was looking up at the top of Mount Adams

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for about 15 minutes before this thing

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happened and the object did not show

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itself from the left right I've got the

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mountain in front of me it appeared over

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here it didn't like come across the sky

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and fly behind the mountain that's not

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what happened okay I was looking at the

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mountain almost looking at the birds I

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was looking at everything around it it

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just appeared on this side on the west

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side or on the east side of the mountain

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there was nothing on the west it

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appeared from behind the mountain I

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can't explain it I I just can't

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I had a full view of everything on both

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sides and above Mount Adams and what did

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it look like you know again if you hold

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up a beer can in front of you you know

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you hold up a I don't have a beer can in

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the studio you would think that I did oh

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you know what this is a better example

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here okay

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fade to black cold-press imagine this

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and I hope you know what this is a

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pretty good example it had a silver

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circle right here had a silver circle

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and it was going like this so I could

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see this then I could it was black and

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then I could see this thing and that's

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how everybody knew what was spinning

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because we could see this so imagine

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that spinning at about this speed just

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200 feet tall I don't know 300 feet tall

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how do you know I don't have that but 14

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miles away and it's just cruising and

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that's that's what it was that's what it

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looked like

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that's no there's no wings there's no

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propellers there's no why sir isn't it

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anything it's not a balloon it's not

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it's not it's this then it just

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disappeared so it was in the middle of

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the day the Sun was perfect I could see

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everything it was just in focus it was

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unbelievable

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and I'm so glad that we had all of the

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witnesses at that moment because when he

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sees something like this and you're

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alone it's just a story it's a good

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story

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witnessed the Holy Grail a real daytime

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UFO event incredible all of the night

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vision all of the other things that I

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have seen you know the black triangle

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and the photograph and you know that you

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know okay all right all right great

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stuff and I can't take anything away

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from any of that but it's just amazing

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but this I'm trying to explain it to you

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so you can understand

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it was incredible and I just keep going

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back to that moment that moment looking

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in the binoculars where and I'm looking

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and the top of the mountain it's brown

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and you know the blue sky back of it and

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just just came out spinning I yeah yeah

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incredible incredible that's why we do

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this show that's why we do the show and

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when when you hear me when you hear me

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possibly and I don't do this often but

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when I come down on somebody or or

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things or companies or whatever it's

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just you have to understand where I am

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coming from if you have evidence and you

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don't want you claim that you have it

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you don't present it I've got issues

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with that I need to get the answers I

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need to find out I want to know what

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this was you know and and I'm depending

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on things in disclosure you know to

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break out you know so if you've got

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evidence don't say that we can't handle

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just present it that's number one number

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two if you do present something if you

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present something you're at a conference

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you're in a video and you show something

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on the screen and and and you're

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bringing this forward make sure that it

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is correct and that it is authentic and

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that it's real because I'm looking for

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these answers I have come forward I have

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spoken about this I have witnesses out

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there that are sitting beside me that

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have seen these things and we we we want

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these answers so that's why I am

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critical I'm not out here faking it I'm

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not out here phoning it in I want these

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answers and here we go

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2019 is here we're gonna start our sixth

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year in this broadcast and it is my

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mission for this community to get these

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answers

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this is fade to black I'm Errol Jimmy

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Church tonight our guest is

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Richard and bleeping Dolan and I'll be

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five I'll be right back stay with us

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our sixth year pretty incredible

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that's why Richard bleep and Dolan is

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here

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Richard is also our last guest in 2018

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so it's a pretty incredible evening and

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everything is as it should be and I

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would like to welcome back to fade to

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black Richard bleep and Dolan Richard

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good evening man how are you hi Jimmy

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it's uh it's a pleasure to be here and

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an honor to be your last guest of the

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year first guests of your your sixth

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season now yeah crazy huh crazy yeah

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thank you

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crazy crazy and and you know when you

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think about it welcome back Richard and

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2018 was a pretty crazy year but this is

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what is amazing to me is I look back to

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the first time that you and I met which

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was also the first time that I

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interviewed you we did that live

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broadcast and here in Los Angeles that

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was five years ago man yes when I

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smacked my head I'm just gonna let you

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know I don't know if you actually know

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this but I was pretty traumatized

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because I you looked at me I watched it

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you know I was outside with you when you

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did it

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and when he walked into the tree you

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walked inside you look dark it was dark

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but you looked at me you were a little

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cross-eyed right little cross-eyed and

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you looked at me go how do I look and I

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as I'm watching I'm watching it grow

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right right in front of me and I go dude

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you look you look fine and I'm just the

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hitter myself that looks nasty man

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that'll be dead body what was I what was

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I supposed to do go dude oh my god you

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know that which is how I felt but that

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winter no there's video of that anywhere

682
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there is video there is video but see

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the thing is the thing is we caked on

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the makeup

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we I do yeah we had to oh man what a

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night that was but anyway here we are

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five years later and Wow Wow Wow just an

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incredible ride you've been long with

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this for all of it so thank you for your

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support and friendship and all of that

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it's been incredible okay first question

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of the night I know this is going to

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come as a surprise to you

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00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:41,960
last song you listened to today you rock

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and roll and I hadn't thought about this

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I'm not buying that I'm gonna tell you

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what I've been listening to a lot lately

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and I have a feeling the one that's in

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my mind I've had a lot of we we've had a

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lot of Christmas music on a lot of jazz

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crooners and I'm just gonna say in Dean

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Martin let it snow

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oh very nice very nice great one that

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and it's certainly I don't know if it's

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the last one I but it's it's like in my

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head and we've been hearing it a lot and

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I know it's been very reason mine we're

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gonna go with mine today I'm going to

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admit I'm just gonna say Burrell lives

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and he's on all the time is that all the

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time and and I'm listening here in a

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window there's the frosty the snow I

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have a holly jolly Christmas have a

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holly generally of course you know and

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so I came home I was out doing some

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stuff and I came home and Rita was in

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the kitchen I skate men singing that

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song and she just spins around stop just

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write song no it's not that it's my

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voice man that little curdled milk so

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anyway but yeah well anyone makes that

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song sound good Jimmy you could make it

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sound good

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I believe it I sang with you one time

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yes yes you could do it you know we we

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hit you know one solid you know it was a

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good thing it was the last note too but

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we just found that harmony and and well

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I'm glad you thanks amber lives I'm very

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happy okay it's a good song it's

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wonderful tonight I want to talk to you

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opposed and the reason why you and I

733
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I enjoy your research and and and

734
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talking about your research and and

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getting that out of you which is you

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know based on history and and in

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Washington and of course you know ad

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after disclosure and and documents and

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false flags and you're a historian and

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and and it's it's a great tone to get

741
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into to get educated I get that but I've

742
00:39:57,309 --> 00:39:55,670
never we've had sightings together we've

743
00:40:03,849 --> 00:39:57,319
done a lot of things but you and I have

744
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:03,859
never really talked UFOs right no in

745
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terms of what they are what how they do

746
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:08,180
what they do the science of that sort of

747
00:40:12,339 --> 00:40:09,920
thing we've never we've never done it

748
00:40:13,630 --> 00:40:12,349
we'll see even you are going that sort

749
00:40:15,459 --> 00:40:13,640
of thing that's because we've never done

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that so that's what we're gonna do to

751
00:40:23,049 --> 00:40:19,369
probably happen and is this is the UFO

752
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:23,059
subject like this is it your comfort

753
00:40:28,989 --> 00:40:26,210
zone is is is are you comfortable is it

754
00:40:31,569 --> 00:40:28,999
in your comfort zone I am yes absolutely

755
00:40:33,569 --> 00:40:31,579
I mean I'll just say when I I got into

756
00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:33,579
UFOs and I think anyone who's ever

757
00:40:38,739 --> 00:40:36,049
encountered anything that I've written

758
00:40:40,749 --> 00:40:38,749
or said would would gather the thing

759
00:40:44,380 --> 00:40:40,759
that has always driven me is the

760
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:44,390
discrepancy of this obvious reality and

761
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:46,400
the cover-up that that is hiding it so

762
00:40:50,049 --> 00:40:48,890
the politics of the UFO phenomenon I've

763
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:50,059
always been the main thing that's driven

764
00:40:55,809 --> 00:40:53,690
me but look the thing is when you study

765
00:41:00,099 --> 00:40:55,819
anything long enough I mean it's a it's

766
00:41:02,529 --> 00:41:00,109
a real puzzle and the science of the of

767
00:41:05,170 --> 00:41:02,539
UFOs is definitely something that I've

768
00:41:07,390 --> 00:41:05,180
made myself become at least somewhat

769
00:41:08,829 --> 00:41:07,400
familiar with right I'm comfortable with

770
00:41:10,930 --> 00:41:08,839
the concepts and and interested in

771
00:41:13,539 --> 00:41:10,940
talking about it I will say when I wrote

772
00:41:16,989 --> 00:41:13,549
UFOs for the 21st century mind a few

773
00:41:19,380 --> 00:41:16,999
years ago that really forced me it was a

774
00:41:23,259 --> 00:41:19,390
great opportunity I should say for me to

775
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:23,269
delve into a lot of the sciences and I

776
00:41:28,089 --> 00:41:25,609
say science is plural that that

777
00:41:29,979 --> 00:41:28,099
intersect with the UFO subject so yeah I

778
00:41:33,609 --> 00:41:29,989
mean absolutely it's very interesting

779
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:33,619
and it's also revolutionary because when

780
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:35,450
you really start looking into it UFOs

781
00:41:37,609 --> 00:41:36,319
are one of these things that are

782
00:41:39,499 --> 00:41:37,619
supposed to be impossible

783
00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:39,509
they're not impossible because they

784
00:41:45,859 --> 00:41:42,630
exist and so for that reason we want to

785
00:41:49,279 --> 00:41:45,869
ask ourselves what is it that what what

786
00:41:52,009 --> 00:41:49,289
are the sciences that might make them

787
00:41:56,089 --> 00:41:52,019
possible because somehow they are this

788
00:41:58,370 --> 00:41:56,099
is what is interesting when you and view

789
00:42:02,539 --> 00:41:58,380
your mind works this way when you start

790
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:02,549
to put these ideas down now you you have

791
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:07,920
a right 1 2 3 4 5 B 1 2 3 4 you know the

792
00:42:12,769 --> 00:42:10,410
list it starts to expand and you get

793
00:42:16,279 --> 00:42:12,779
into subgroups and because you said it

794
00:42:20,359 --> 00:42:16,289
correctly science is right it is not one

795
00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:20,369
simple conclusion it can't be and one of

796
00:42:28,489 --> 00:42:23,910
the reasons why for me that it can't be

797
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:28,499
you know one simple thing is that when

798
00:42:34,569 --> 00:42:31,249
you consider like the Drake Equation

799
00:42:38,269 --> 00:42:34,579
antiquated you can throw that out now

800
00:42:41,390 --> 00:42:38,279
recent the recent physics astrophysics

801
00:42:44,539 --> 00:42:41,400
and the study of the universe is now

802
00:42:47,539 --> 00:42:44,549
presenting this one fact and this is

803
00:42:49,940 --> 00:42:47,549
what blows the Drake Equation and even

804
00:42:51,499 --> 00:42:49,950
the Fermi paradox which are two

805
00:42:53,359 --> 00:42:51,509
different things right two different

806
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:53,369
things it's really different totally

807
00:42:57,890 --> 00:42:55,440
different and you can almost backburner

808
00:43:00,670 --> 00:42:57,900
them now we have to reconsider and

809
00:43:05,210 --> 00:43:00,680
rewrite these and one of them is this

810
00:43:08,660 --> 00:43:05,220
our galaxy the Milky Way forget about

811
00:43:12,140 --> 00:43:08,670
the universe the Milky Way 200 billion

812
00:43:16,549 --> 00:43:12,150
stars now postulate that for a second

813
00:43:22,089 --> 00:43:16,559
just sit and let that simmer that every

814
00:43:25,279 --> 00:43:22,099
one of those stars has a planet NOW you

815
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:25,289
there is a possibility here an

816
00:43:32,410 --> 00:43:27,839
astrophysicist astronomers cosmologists

817
00:43:34,999 --> 00:43:32,420
are now firmly planted in this thought

818
00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:35,009
that there could be more planets than

819
00:43:40,339 --> 00:43:38,640
stars in the Milky Way now we are well

820
00:43:44,269 --> 00:43:40,349
they're probably that that's probably

821
00:43:47,299 --> 00:43:44,279
the case the case we have one star that

822
00:43:48,990 --> 00:43:47,309
we know our own which has 9 it was Zakir

823
00:43:51,390 --> 00:43:49,000
one who Pluto eggs

824
00:43:54,210 --> 00:43:51,400
actly now now we're jabal the satellite

825
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:54,220
we are talking about this is where it

826
00:44:00,410 --> 00:43:57,040
this is just a milky way this isn't the

827
00:44:02,490 --> 00:44:00,420
other 500 build just make one

828
00:44:04,290 --> 00:44:02,500
qualification to what you said I don't

829
00:44:05,220 --> 00:44:04,300
think it invalidates the drink equation

830
00:44:07,710 --> 00:44:05,230
I think it makes it a lot more

831
00:44:10,530 --> 00:44:07,720
interesting the Drake Equation is simply

832
00:44:13,980 --> 00:44:10,540
a bunch of variables that astronomer

833
00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:13,990
Frank Drake put together or almost 60

834
00:44:21,330 --> 00:44:16,480
years ago I mean unbelievable as a way

835
00:44:23,250 --> 00:44:21,340
to just take a wild guess as to how how

836
00:44:25,460 --> 00:44:23,260
likely life is in the rest of the

837
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:25,470
universe and so all he did is he said

838
00:44:31,110 --> 00:44:28,930
number of stars number of stars that are

839
00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:31,120
similar to our Sun I mean I can't

840
00:44:35,370 --> 00:44:33,040
remember all the variables and number of

841
00:44:37,110 --> 00:44:35,380
those stars that may have planets you

842
00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:37,120
know a number of stars of that have

843
00:44:42,210 --> 00:44:40,270
planets that may have a atmosphere that

844
00:44:43,980 --> 00:44:42,220
is life-supporting and on and on and on

845
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:43,990
so basically it was just all of these

846
00:44:48,750 --> 00:44:46,210
different variables that it's narrow

847
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:48,760
down narrow down narrow down more and

848
00:44:53,180 --> 00:44:50,890
and that's really all that it is so it's

849
00:44:55,650 --> 00:44:53,190
the equation is still I would say

850
00:44:58,740 --> 00:44:55,660
reasonable but what I think you're

851
00:45:02,190 --> 00:44:58,750
suggesting which I agree with is that it

852
00:45:07,950 --> 00:45:02,200
now seems like there are so many planets

853
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:07,960
and so exoplanetary studies are now you

854
00:45:11,730 --> 00:45:09,760
know where whereas 20-30 years ago that

855
00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:11,740
we had no knowledge of any of this we've

856
00:45:16,350 --> 00:45:13,750
now got confirmation of I think it's

857
00:45:18,810 --> 00:45:16,360
several thousand now XO solar system

858
00:45:20,970 --> 00:45:18,820
planets nine thousand a few that are

859
00:45:22,860 --> 00:45:20,980
earth-like we believe and that are

860
00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:22,870
capable of supporting life so we're

861
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:24,940
finding them it's they're clearly out

862
00:45:29,130 --> 00:45:27,010
there it's obvious and so what I am

863
00:45:31,860 --> 00:45:29,140
saying is about the Drake Equation is

864
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:31,870
you don't need it you don't even eat it

865
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:37,510
you don't it's just an - you know you

866
00:45:45,350 --> 00:45:40,090
don't need it we we know these things

867
00:45:48,450 --> 00:45:45,360
yeah it's a crazy thought and so now

868
00:45:52,860 --> 00:45:48,460
science is right so when we take this

869
00:45:55,230 --> 00:45:52,870
basic fundamental number it could be you

870
00:45:58,770 --> 00:45:55,240
know crazy number right 100 billion

871
00:46:01,590 --> 00:45:58,780
planets and it took us four and a half

872
00:46:02,170 --> 00:46:01,600
billion years you know the earth you

873
00:46:04,060 --> 00:46:02,180
know to get

874
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:04,070
where we are today how many of those

875
00:46:12,690 --> 00:46:07,010
planets well the majority of them and

876
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:12,700
stars are at least that old so how many

877
00:46:20,740 --> 00:46:17,530
different civilizations are aware of us

878
00:46:22,420 --> 00:46:20,750
not specifically earth but they're out

879
00:46:25,150 --> 00:46:22,430
there doing what we're doing Richard

880
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:25,160
they're out there I think so right I I

881
00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:28,400
firmly believe this yeah and so earth is

882
00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:31,250
just an if this is this is where I get a

883
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:34,640
little bit nuts with this earth is just

884
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:38,480
another planet that is cool right there

885
00:46:45,940 --> 00:46:43,850
is another 50 billion rocky planets out

886
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:45,950
there with water on it that are probably

887
00:46:52,810 --> 00:46:50,720
more paradise-like than our planet yeah

888
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:52,820
what's interesting it's like you can

889
00:46:57,310 --> 00:46:55,040
think of Earth less there's a difference

890
00:46:58,990 --> 00:46:57,320
in saying it might be like another three

891
00:47:00,820 --> 00:46:59,000
or four or five planets like Earth that

892
00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:00,830
have life just like us but well then

893
00:47:07,390 --> 00:47:02,830
when you think what if there's a billion

894
00:47:09,370 --> 00:47:07,400
whatever there's a trillion other worlds

895
00:47:12,220 --> 00:47:09,380
like our own then it gets really kind of

896
00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:12,230
crazy it gets nuts and is that the case

897
00:47:18,970 --> 00:47:13,730
well we first of all we don't really

898
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:18,980
know yet but look it does seem more and

899
00:47:25,210 --> 00:47:22,330
more that there are probably a lot

900
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:25,220
probably a lot just the way if the

901
00:47:29,410 --> 00:47:27,770
universe is consistent in its chemistry

902
00:47:33,370 --> 00:47:29,420
and in the physics which there's no

903
00:47:35,350 --> 00:47:33,380
reason not to think that yeah there's

904
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:35,360
probably many many other opportunities

905
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:40,250
for planets comparable to Earth to have

906
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:42,650
been created and then for life like ours

907
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:44,210
you know there's still the other side of

908
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:46,010
it by the way let's not forget there are

909
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:49,130
scientists who will say for example we

910
00:47:53,500 --> 00:47:51,110
are unique why are we unique and they'll

911
00:47:55,390 --> 00:47:53,510
say we have the moon and then they look

912
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:55,400
at the moon and they say the moon is a

913
00:48:00,250 --> 00:47:57,680
very unusual satellite the moon has

914
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:00,260
stabilized a lot of life on earth and

915
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:02,330
you know experts can tell you all the

916
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:04,730
reasons why but and there's I think

917
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:06,560
probably a lot of truth to that but

918
00:48:14,350 --> 00:48:10,370
nonetheless are we really to think that

919
00:48:16,539 --> 00:48:14,360
life can't evolve to an advanced degree

920
00:48:19,029 --> 00:48:16,549
on planets that don't

921
00:48:20,949 --> 00:48:19,039
the moon just like ours I'm guessing

922
00:48:22,989 --> 00:48:20,959
they can yeah it's it's a numbers game

923
00:48:26,469 --> 00:48:22,999
just like the Drake Equation it's a

924
00:48:30,130 --> 00:48:26,479
numbers game in that you and I if we sit

925
00:48:33,130 --> 00:48:30,140
with a deck of cards and we play we play

926
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:33,140
a card game I don't care to pick the

927
00:48:39,150 --> 00:48:36,170
card we play poker right and we shuffle

928
00:48:42,579 --> 00:48:39,160
those cards and deal out some hands

929
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:42,589
eventually we I don't know how long it

930
00:48:49,199 --> 00:48:45,920
would take but we will deal and have an

931
00:48:52,269 --> 00:48:49,209
identical deck where we will deal

932
00:48:55,059 --> 00:48:52,279
identical cards and it's the same thing

933
00:48:56,109 --> 00:48:55,069
with the universe in our Milky Way it's

934
00:48:58,959 --> 00:48:56,119
it's a numbers game

935
00:49:01,539 --> 00:48:58,969
somewhere out there Richard there are

936
00:49:03,370 --> 00:49:01,549
dudes doing a radio show named Richard

937
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:03,380
and Jimmy talking about other planets

938
00:49:14,169 --> 00:49:10,880
out there right now I know right time to

939
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,179
do a bong hit but but that that's really

940
00:49:19,390 --> 00:49:16,640
what we're dealing with here and you

941
00:49:20,829 --> 00:49:19,400
know how much more advanced or not you

942
00:49:23,979 --> 00:49:20,839
know that's that's that's a whole nother

943
00:49:26,890 --> 00:49:23,989
thing to consider but who is visiting us

944
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:26,900
here it's it's a crazy it's a crazy

945
00:49:32,439 --> 00:49:29,089
number and what the reasons are for

946
00:49:38,229 --> 00:49:32,449
being here are as varied as the stars

947
00:49:40,539 --> 00:49:38,239
that are in the Milky Way sure when I

948
00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:40,549
when I think of the science Sciences

949
00:49:45,339 --> 00:49:43,849
that intersect with UFOs so I guess

950
00:49:47,859 --> 00:49:45,349
you've just been getting into one of

951
00:49:50,469 --> 00:49:47,869
them which is Astro astronomy and

952
00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:50,479
astrophysics and excel biology and the

953
00:49:56,739 --> 00:49:53,359
like but then you know there's always

954
00:49:58,989 --> 00:49:56,749
the objection that many scientists still

955
00:50:00,969 --> 00:49:58,999
have relating to UFOs which is not that

956
00:50:03,219 --> 00:50:00,979
there isn't a lot of life out there they

957
00:50:04,749 --> 00:50:03,229
will say sure there's probably an

958
00:50:05,979 --> 00:50:04,759
amazing amount of life out there but

959
00:50:07,209 --> 00:50:05,989
that doesn't mean that they are able to

960
00:50:09,789 --> 00:50:07,219
get here and they will always come down

961
00:50:13,029 --> 00:50:09,799
to something that actually many of us do

962
00:50:15,669 --> 00:50:13,039
tend to overlook which is the vast shall

963
00:50:17,709 --> 00:50:15,679
we say astronomical distances between

964
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:17,719
the stars and and they really are quite

965
00:50:21,819 --> 00:50:20,089
amazing actually when you every now and

966
00:50:23,319 --> 00:50:21,829
then you can get a physicist or an

967
00:50:25,299 --> 00:50:23,329
astronomer to give you a kind of

968
00:50:27,069 --> 00:50:25,309
graphical representation of the distance

969
00:50:28,539 --> 00:50:27,079
between the stars and you know

970
00:50:30,660 --> 00:50:28,549
everyone's heard these things and it is

971
00:50:34,580 --> 00:50:30,670
its immense it's like beyond immense

972
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:34,590
and and it's really true that we don't

973
00:50:43,110 --> 00:50:39,730
know of confirmed science that will get

974
00:50:45,870 --> 00:50:43,120
us right now to even the nearest star

975
00:50:47,580 --> 00:50:45,880
however this is where I think the

976
00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:47,590
science has really you know become

977
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:51,310
interesting because if we accept the

978
00:50:57,780 --> 00:50:54,850
validity of these many many UFO reports

979
00:51:00,060 --> 00:50:57,790
and if we accept the validity of a great

980
00:51:01,650 --> 00:51:00,070
amount of testimony that indicates at

981
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:01,660
least some of these beings don't appear

982
00:51:08,370 --> 00:51:03,970
to be human they don't seem to come from

983
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:08,380
here so that's interstellar travel and

984
00:51:13,140 --> 00:51:10,330
how might that be possible and in fact

985
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:13,150
here's the thing we've developed

986
00:51:20,010 --> 00:51:15,910
mathematics and science in the last 2025

987
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:20,020
years that go a very long way toward

988
00:51:25,890 --> 00:51:22,330
explaining just how you can do

989
00:51:28,290 --> 00:51:25,900
interstellar travel and it doesn't take

990
00:51:30,690 --> 00:51:28,300
forever and you you're not violating any

991
00:51:32,430 --> 00:51:30,700
laws of the speed of light a limitation

992
00:51:34,740 --> 00:51:32,440
but there are ways around it it's

993
00:51:37,980 --> 00:51:34,750
basically and run around this and we're

994
00:51:40,380 --> 00:51:37,990
talking about is essentially warp drive

995
00:51:43,050 --> 00:51:40,390
and by that I'm talking about

996
00:51:45,870 --> 00:51:43,060
mathematical equations gentleman named

997
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:45,880
Miguel Alcubierre back in the 1990's did

998
00:51:51,420 --> 00:51:48,310
the math and he it seems as far as I can

999
00:51:53,250 --> 00:51:51,430
tell it was definitive he developed the

1000
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:53,260
theory of warp drive which is to create

1001
00:51:59,310 --> 00:51:56,530
a disturbance in space-time you're in a

1002
00:52:01,230 --> 00:51:59,320
craft and you need a sufficient amount

1003
00:52:05,130 --> 00:52:01,240
of energy to do this but if you're able

1004
00:52:07,410 --> 00:52:05,140
to you can shrink space or space-time in

1005
00:52:10,980 --> 00:52:07,420
front of you extend it behind you you're

1006
00:52:12,750 --> 00:52:10,990
in a kind of space-time bubble and so

1007
00:52:15,390 --> 00:52:12,760
it's a distortion of space-time would

1008
00:52:16,890 --> 00:52:15,400
therefore propel you or actually more

1009
00:52:20,190 --> 00:52:16,900
accurately more accurately your

1010
00:52:22,050 --> 00:52:20,200
spaceship forward like a surfer riding a

1011
00:52:24,930 --> 00:52:22,060
wave within that bubble you're not

1012
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:24,940
breaking any laws of physics but what

1013
00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:27,370
you're actually doing is you're warping

1014
00:52:32,010 --> 00:52:29,950
space and time while you're at it

1015
00:52:34,490 --> 00:52:32,020
because space and time are a fabric now

1016
00:52:36,420 --> 00:52:34,500
the biggest problem with that

1017
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:36,430
mathematics which again appear to be

1018
00:52:40,410 --> 00:52:39,040
totally sound is that scientists have

1019
00:52:43,380 --> 00:52:40,420
said well we have no idea to generate

1020
00:52:43,740 --> 00:52:43,390
that much energy to warp space-time but

1021
00:52:45,690 --> 00:52:43,750
now

1022
00:52:49,170 --> 00:52:45,700
I'm hearing it was a I think it was a

1023
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:49,180
paper by physicist Eric Davis recently

1024
00:52:52,860 --> 00:52:50,890
he's associated with how putt-off he was

1025
00:52:55,020 --> 00:52:52,870
working with Bigelow and he were on the

1026
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:55,030
Ned's ranch back the skinwalker ranch in

1027
00:52:59,540 --> 00:52:57,610
the 90s but Eric Davis if I'm not

1028
00:53:03,600 --> 00:52:59,550
mistaken it suggested that there may be

1029
00:53:06,540 --> 00:53:03,610
ways of generating the amount of energy

1030
00:53:08,910 --> 00:53:06,550
and it may not be as much as we had

1031
00:53:11,250 --> 00:53:08,920
thought so whether that's true or not

1032
00:53:14,190 --> 00:53:11,260
I don't know but it seems to me that our

1033
00:53:17,790 --> 00:53:14,200
scientists are definitely moving ahead

1034
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:17,800
that's just one fascinating science that

1035
00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:19,570
is the science of interstellar travel

1036
00:53:26,540 --> 00:53:23,110
and what amazes me is that you've got

1037
00:53:29,610 --> 00:53:26,550
this phenomenon we call it UFOs it gets

1038
00:53:31,710 --> 00:53:29,620
ignored even now even a year after the

1039
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:31,720
New York Times piece on the a tip

1040
00:53:37,380 --> 00:53:34,450
program and everything you know the

1041
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:37,390
subject is still ignored by the

1042
00:53:41,490 --> 00:53:39,280
establishment culture establishment

1043
00:53:44,970 --> 00:53:41,500
media and yet it intersects with so many

1044
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:44,980
cutting-edge Sciences you know whether

1045
00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:46,720
it's space-time and more were they we're

1046
00:53:51,210 --> 00:53:48,310
talking like electrogravitics that's

1047
00:53:52,380 --> 00:53:51,220
another thing we can get into or energy

1048
00:53:53,790 --> 00:53:52,390
you know what are they using are they

1049
00:53:55,890 --> 00:53:53,800
using nuclear fusion are you using

1050
00:53:57,630 --> 00:53:55,900
zero-point how do they get from here to

1051
00:54:01,250 --> 00:53:57,640
there they're obviously not using

1052
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:01,260
petroleum using something else and

1053
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:03,610
dimensions string theory all of these

1054
00:54:10,590 --> 00:54:06,730
things have their connection in one way

1055
00:54:12,990 --> 00:54:10,600
or another to UFOs even entanglement and

1056
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:13,000
consciousness so there's all of these

1057
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:16,510
fascinating Sciences that bump into the

1058
00:54:21,180 --> 00:54:18,730
UFO subject or that the UFO subject

1059
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:21,190
bumps into that might be a better way to

1060
00:54:27,090 --> 00:54:23,730
put it and yet the the UFO subject

1061
00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:27,100
continually gets ignored year after year

1062
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:29,470
when there's so much potential for a

1063
00:54:36,330 --> 00:54:33,730
real scientific progress to be made by a

1064
00:54:39,540 --> 00:54:36,340
sophisticated study of it yeah I think

1065
00:54:42,060 --> 00:54:39,550
we're getting closer to that too now

1066
00:54:44,430 --> 00:54:42,070
when it's like I said it's just a

1067
00:54:46,620 --> 00:54:44,440
numbers game so when you start to put

1068
00:54:50,220 --> 00:54:46,630
all of this forward where science is

1069
00:54:53,220 --> 00:54:50,230
saying okay it there isn't just us and

1070
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:53,230
it wasn't this is the thing it was just

1071
00:54:58,050 --> 00:54:56,170
one lifetime ago Richard one lifetime

1072
00:55:00,990 --> 00:54:58,060
ago 1925

1073
00:55:04,590 --> 00:55:01,000
this is 2018 going into 2019 one

1074
00:55:08,310 --> 00:55:04,600
lifetime ago there the universe was the

1075
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:08,320
Milky Way what's right one lifetime ago

1076
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:10,960
you know and and that number that number

1077
00:55:17,730 --> 00:55:14,290
one is significant not only was it one

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lifetime ago but there was only one it

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00:55:22,740 --> 00:55:20,320
was us that's it and here we are today

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00:55:25,740 --> 00:55:22,750
where science is going wait a minute

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00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:25,750
here it's it's much bigger these numbers

1082
00:55:30,810 --> 00:55:27,850
are daunting it's a crazy situation

1083
00:55:33,660 --> 00:55:30,820
there is no way that we are alone now

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00:55:36,810 --> 00:55:33,670
let's figure out how we could be getting

1085
00:55:39,180 --> 00:55:36,820
visited and I think science now is is is

1086
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:39,190
right here they're not only with with

1087
00:55:42,780 --> 00:55:41,170
the UFO community it's just that it's a

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00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:42,790
numbers game and that's the way that

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00:55:48,180 --> 00:55:45,610
they work and now they have the ability

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00:55:50,070 --> 00:55:48,190
to see these exoplanets and understand

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00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:50,080
what's going on and now they can

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00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:53,650
seriously start to consider these it's

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00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:55,990
just an amazing universe that we live in

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00:55:59,640 --> 00:55:57,370
I mean we think of the Milky Way galaxy

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00:56:01,230 --> 00:55:59,650
and you're right like up until the 20s

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00:56:03,660 --> 00:56:01,240
no one understood that there were other

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00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:03,670
galaxies our galaxy has I don't really

1098
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:05,530
even remember the number of stars

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00:56:09,630 --> 00:56:07,570
trillions something's - who knows I

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00:56:14,490 --> 00:56:09,640
don't many many many trillions of stars

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00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:14,500
and there are trillions of galaxies

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00:56:19,620 --> 00:56:16,990
good grief and then you think of the

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00:56:22,350 --> 00:56:19,630
space between the galaxies which is

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00:56:24,210 --> 00:56:22,360
beyond immense I can't even how do you

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00:56:26,190 --> 00:56:24,220
fathom that yeah I know and this is an

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00:56:27,780 --> 00:56:26,200
incredible incredible universe that we

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00:56:30,660 --> 00:56:27,790
find ourselves in there's incredible

1108
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:30,670
there's one other aspect to this too as

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00:56:34,110 --> 00:56:33,370
well and I invite everybody the audience

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00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:34,120
to go do this

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00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:37,290
Kepler when you look at the Kepler

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00:56:45,090 --> 00:56:40,510
images of the galaxies of the universe

1113
00:56:47,610 --> 00:56:45,100
it's galaxy clusters right and so you

1114
00:56:49,470 --> 00:56:47,620
look at these Kepler images right you're

1115
00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:49,480
looking at all these galaxies right and

1116
00:56:55,380 --> 00:56:52,720
then and then you'll see some images

1117
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:55,390
that have a bunch of orange dots in them

1118
00:56:59,640 --> 00:56:57,490
look like stars right or whatever those

1119
00:57:02,040 --> 00:56:59,650
are galaxy clusters so where you're

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00:57:03,660 --> 00:57:02,050
thinking you're looking at Wow 150,000

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00:57:05,580 --> 00:57:03,670
galaxies this is great this is amazing

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00:57:08,190 --> 00:57:05,590
look at all this and what's inside of

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00:57:10,140 --> 00:57:08,200
those that's right and then and then

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00:57:11,710 --> 00:57:10,150
yeah and wait a minute then you go to

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00:57:14,410 --> 00:57:11,720
the galaxy clusters

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00:57:17,620 --> 00:57:14,420
and get those enlarged and look what do

1127
00:57:21,580 --> 00:57:17,630
you thought was just a star or a dot or

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00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:21,590
a galaxy is actually another hundred

1129
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:25,520
thousand galaxies it's like nuts right

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00:57:32,109 --> 00:57:29,330
it's just like it's crazy and I love it

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00:57:33,940 --> 00:57:32,119
I just I just love it so I it's just

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00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:33,950
something that's so fascinating to me so

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00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:37,280
when we come back let's talk about these

1134
00:57:42,670 --> 00:57:39,890
propulsion systems and and how these

1135
00:57:44,589 --> 00:57:42,680
civilizations could be investigating the

1136
00:57:46,180 --> 00:57:44,599
universe and checking us out and we'll

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00:57:47,859 --> 00:57:46,190
do all of that Richard you ready for

1138
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:47,869
this I hope so

1139
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:49,490
it's like buckle up kiddies let's do

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00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:51,650
this it's our fifth year it's a fifth

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00:57:56,349 --> 00:57:54,650
year and it's Richard bleeping Dolan I

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00:57:58,089 --> 00:57:56,359
thought he was gonna say carpenters

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00:58:00,280 --> 00:57:58,099
Christmas song by the way I'm just gonna

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00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:00,290
let everybody know my god Richard was

1145
00:58:04,750 --> 00:58:03,290
going there actually that's what I

1146
00:58:10,060 --> 00:58:04,760
listened to today but I couldn't admit

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00:58:11,260 --> 00:58:10,070
it I had to go brew a while yes yes

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00:58:12,730 --> 00:58:11,270
we'll be right back

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00:58:14,310 --> 00:58:12,740
this is fade to black our guest tonight

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00:58:29,199 --> 00:58:14,320
Richard Dolan stay with us

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this is fade to black

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hello this is Serena right kayla from

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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your host Jimmy church on the

1269
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:55,390
GameChanger network and kg are a the

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planet I want to welcome everybody this

1271
01:04:01,980 --> 01:03:59,710
is very special to evening

1272
01:04:05,190 --> 01:04:01,990
it's our last guest of the year Richard

1273
01:04:07,170 --> 01:04:05,200
Dolan it's our fifth anniversary and

1274
01:04:09,329 --> 01:04:07,180
it's a very cool night and I do want to

1275
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:09,339
thank Richard for doing this during the

1276
01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:11,530
holiday season once again and Richard

1277
01:04:15,660 --> 01:04:13,359
okay so talking about the signs of this

1278
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:15,670
I'm gonna get to this point as quick as

1279
01:04:23,270 --> 01:04:19,690
possible probably 20 years ago this

1280
01:04:27,380 --> 01:04:23,280
thought popped into my head and it was

1281
01:04:31,190 --> 01:04:27,390
talking about nanotechnology and I was

1282
01:04:34,020 --> 01:04:31,200
into that at the time and the thought of

1283
01:04:36,510 --> 01:04:34,030
self-replicating nanobots

1284
01:04:40,589 --> 01:04:36,520
you know infesting the earth and the

1285
01:04:42,990 --> 01:04:40,599
singularity and all that great gray goo

1286
01:04:45,420 --> 01:04:43,000
right right so but I thought about that

1287
01:04:48,059 --> 01:04:45,430
and I thought but that's that's how

1288
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:48,069
they're getting here today you know not

1289
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:51,130
necessarily one big mothership which is

1290
01:04:57,089 --> 01:04:53,650
you know another way that they're doing

1291
01:04:59,940 --> 01:04:57,099
it I'm sure about that but building as

1292
01:05:02,730 --> 01:04:59,950
they go that's how you know it jumped

1293
01:05:04,589 --> 01:05:02,740
finding an asteroid getting the the

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minerals and the resources out of that

1295
01:05:10,230 --> 01:05:07,599
and and and and building and landing on

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01:05:12,990 --> 01:05:10,240
a planet and and getting and building

1297
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:13,000
you know more practice I think that's

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01:05:17,460 --> 01:05:15,130
quite reasonable right that and the fact

1299
01:05:19,890 --> 01:05:17,470
that they're very possibly the result of

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01:05:22,890 --> 01:05:19,900
some kind of very advanced artificial

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intelligence themselves either either

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01:05:28,940 --> 01:05:25,839
created as biological forms by an

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01:05:31,170 --> 01:05:28,950
artificial intelligence or created as

1304
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:31,180
artificial intelligence themselves and

1305
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and partly organic and partly inorganic

1306
01:05:36,569 --> 01:05:34,750
for all we know I mean there's all kinds

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of permutations there but all of those

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yeah and I want to stay on that thought

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01:05:48,059 --> 01:05:43,869
that's a great point to bring out if you

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are on your way to say planet Earth

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right and we spewed out some radio stuff

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now they they they now have a language

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to decode right and to figure out and

1314
01:06:02,950 --> 01:06:00,069
they've got all the time in the world to

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do that traveling the star

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cars and so by the time they get here

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television transmitted now they've got

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our image they know what we look like

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01:06:17,140 --> 01:06:13,339
they know what we talk like and by the

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time they get here they built some

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01:06:25,359 --> 01:06:22,430
biological drawing entity to represent

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us so we don't freak out I've wondered

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01:06:31,829 --> 01:06:28,099
I've wanted this for sure and you know

1324
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there's a lot of there are many many

1325
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claims of people having encountered

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beings who look exactly like us but who

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are not like us and I mean this and of

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course this goes along with pardon me

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01:06:48,339 --> 01:06:45,099
claims that people have gone on craft

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and encountered both alien and human

1331
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looking beings Travis Walton Travis

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01:06:54,700 --> 01:06:53,030
Walton Dalton probably the most famous

1333
01:06:56,370 --> 01:06:54,710
of them yeah but there's many many

1334
01:06:58,690 --> 01:06:56,380
claims of people who've encountered

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completely human looking operators of

1336
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these UFOs and that can lead you to a

1337
01:07:09,730 --> 01:07:04,849
couple of possibilities a is the UFO

1338
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:09,740
phenomenon solely human done created by

1339
01:07:15,849 --> 01:07:13,250
a just basically a secret civilization

1340
01:07:19,390 --> 01:07:15,859
here on planet earth a secret breakaway

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01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:19,400
civilization of sorts or are these other

1342
01:07:26,290 --> 01:07:22,970
beings from elsewhere but the humans are

1343
01:07:28,690 --> 01:07:26,300
like avatars of their society or

1344
01:07:29,890 --> 01:07:28,700
creations of their society in one way or

1345
01:07:32,170 --> 01:07:29,900
another I mean you can really get into a

1346
01:07:34,270 --> 01:07:32,180
lot of possibilities here yeah and and

1347
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:34,280
and if you flip it around which is

1348
01:07:37,930 --> 01:07:35,570
something that you'd like to do

1349
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:37,940
no I somebody said did Jimmy just snort

1350
01:07:42,339 --> 01:07:39,730
you know that wasn't me that was Richard

1351
01:07:47,650 --> 01:07:42,349
just but he sounds like me he's got that

1352
01:07:51,730 --> 01:07:47,660
radio voice I I might have snorted it's

1353
01:07:54,099 --> 01:07:51,740
it's an embarrassing habit is this let's

1354
01:07:56,260 --> 01:07:54,109
let's flip it around for a second you

1355
01:07:58,270 --> 01:07:56,270
and I right run our starship Cruiser

1356
01:08:00,970 --> 01:07:58,280
we're going out we found a planet that's

1357
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:00,980
got oxygen and water and the possibility

1358
01:08:07,540 --> 01:08:03,530
of life and maybe maybe some type of

1359
01:08:09,310 --> 01:08:07,550
electronic signals come off of it well

1360
01:08:14,020 --> 01:08:09,320
now now I'm coughing things for that

1361
01:08:16,250 --> 01:08:14,030
Richard is this are you and I going to

1362
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:16,260
be first down

1363
01:08:21,410 --> 01:08:19,530
to this planet you're not gonna want to

1364
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:21,420
go first I'm not gonna want to go first

1365
01:08:26,510 --> 01:08:23,520
of course not we're gonna build

1366
01:08:29,180 --> 01:08:26,520
something to go down onto that planet to

1367
01:08:31,340 --> 01:08:29,190
check it out whether it be a robot or

1368
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:31,350
some type of Android or some type of

1369
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:33,770
biological thing that we're gonna create

1370
01:08:39,380 --> 01:08:36,930
but we're not gonna set foot down there

1371
01:08:42,290 --> 01:08:39,390
first are we of course not and so why

1372
01:08:43,790 --> 01:08:42,300
would we expect the same from ET yeah

1373
01:08:45,890 --> 01:08:43,800
exactly you know it's funny I was just

1374
01:08:48,020 --> 01:08:45,900
recently thinking and talking about

1375
01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:48,030
remember the famous condom committee

1376
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:49,920
report in fact since we're talking about

1377
01:08:55,550 --> 01:08:53,370
science that was allegedly a scientific

1378
01:08:57,980 --> 01:08:55,560
study of the UFO phenomenon back in the

1379
01:09:00,620 --> 01:08:57,990
1960s of course in retrospect it was a

1380
01:09:02,030 --> 01:09:00,630
sham of a scientific study I mean an

1381
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:02,040
embarrassment really for anyone who

1382
01:09:08,060 --> 01:09:04,890
really believes in science but in that

1383
01:09:12,410 --> 01:09:08,070
report the lead physicists of the

1384
01:09:14,510 --> 01:09:12,420
project Edward Condon wrote he's very

1385
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:14,520
very frustrated with UFOs and was a very

1386
01:09:18,620 --> 01:09:16,650
strong skeptic debunker type and he just

1387
01:09:21,530 --> 01:09:18,630
said look if these aliens really wanted

1388
01:09:23,270 --> 01:09:21,540
to show themselves why don't they just

1389
01:09:26,540 --> 01:09:23,280
land he didn't say on the White House

1390
01:09:28,700 --> 01:09:26,550
lawn but for a meeting of the National

1391
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:28,710
Association of physicists while we were

1392
01:09:35,270 --> 01:09:32,130
having an annual meeting and land and

1393
01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:35,280
present us with a formal paper on how

1394
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:36,510
they operate and what they're you know

1395
01:09:41,210 --> 01:09:39,090
wow they're capabilities are and so

1396
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:41,220
forth and I just thought what a stupid

1397
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:43,050
thing to say like what an embarrassingly

1398
01:09:48,620 --> 01:09:46,650
dumb thing for an American famous

1399
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:48,630
American physicist to say relating to

1400
01:09:52,730 --> 01:09:50,610
the landing of extraterrestrial life

1401
01:09:55,460 --> 01:09:52,740
like that's exactly not how it would go

1402
01:09:58,370 --> 01:09:55,470
down under any logical situation you

1403
01:09:59,800 --> 01:09:58,380
just wouldn't ever expect anything like

1404
01:10:03,200 --> 01:09:59,810
that and I think what you just said

1405
01:10:05,660 --> 01:10:03,210
you're not a famous physicist but is far

1406
01:10:07,610 --> 01:10:05,670
more logical than what Edward Condon

1407
01:10:09,260 --> 01:10:07,620
hypothesized that would be a likely

1408
01:10:12,500 --> 01:10:09,270
thing and I think we're getting closer

1409
01:10:16,970 --> 01:10:12,510
to this type of mindset you know our

1410
01:10:19,460 --> 01:10:16,980
science is is one thing but us as humans

1411
01:10:22,550 --> 01:10:19,470
we're getting smarter every single day

1412
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:22,560
right and these things are

1413
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:25,440
I'm gonna hold off on that you know what

1414
01:10:30,650 --> 01:10:27,210
I'm saying you know we're starting to

1415
01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:30,660
grow I really don't know if I think like

1416
01:10:36,170 --> 01:10:33,840
really we may be becoming less

1417
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:36,180
intelligent with each generation and

1418
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:37,920
certainly over each century I'm not I'm

1419
01:10:41,630 --> 01:10:39,450
not really not sure that we're becoming

1420
01:10:42,650 --> 01:10:41,640
more intelligent but do you think we are

1421
01:10:44,030 --> 01:10:42,660
do you think we're becoming more

1422
01:10:47,780 --> 01:10:44,040
intelligent think we're understanding

1423
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:47,790
things I think we are understanding

1424
01:10:55,490 --> 01:10:52,050
things make much more sense and if we go

1425
01:10:57,710 --> 01:10:55,500
back to right we are leading science is

1426
01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:57,720
doing a pretty good job at figuring

1427
01:11:01,220 --> 01:10:59,040
things out I'll agree with there yeah

1428
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:01,230
yeah you know I think I think we're just

1429
01:11:06,140 --> 01:11:03,570
getting a little bit smarter that's all

1430
01:11:09,530 --> 01:11:06,150
that's all we're growing up you know if

1431
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:09,540
we look at all of humanity you know

1432
01:11:15,290 --> 01:11:11,760
going back let's go back 150,000 years

1433
01:11:17,870 --> 01:11:15,300
and where we are today and where we have

1434
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:17,880
come in the last hundred years you know

1435
01:11:22,190 --> 01:11:19,890
what that makes us like eight years old

1436
01:11:24,260 --> 01:11:22,200
then you know we're just kidding we're

1437
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:24,270
just we're just getting a you know a

1438
01:11:28,850 --> 01:11:26,610
little more mature and a little more

1439
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:28,860
sensible about things and certainly

1440
01:11:34,580 --> 01:11:32,250
about our universe and and and and maybe

1441
01:11:36,710 --> 01:11:34,590
I'll just put this out for you sure

1442
01:11:39,380 --> 01:11:36,720
our brains are ten to fifteen percent

1443
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:39,390
smaller than our forbearers of just ten

1444
01:11:42,170 --> 01:11:40,290
thousand years ago

1445
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:42,180
you know waters in gatherers do you know

1446
01:11:47,630 --> 01:11:44,880
G percent smaller do you know why I can

1447
01:11:49,310 --> 01:11:47,640
tell you why I yes well I die also do

1448
01:11:51,050 --> 01:11:49,320
know why at least I think I know I know

1449
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:51,060
what someone's leading leading

1450
01:11:55,580 --> 01:11:52,890
hypotheses are which I think are

1451
01:11:57,770 --> 01:11:55,590
credible okay a theory if you give me

1452
01:11:58,220 --> 01:11:57,780
yours okay who's gonna go for I'll go

1453
01:12:01,970 --> 01:11:58,230
first

1454
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:01,980
because I'll inflame every brains you

1455
01:12:05,740 --> 01:12:03,570
all are and our hunter-gatherer

1456
01:12:10,130 --> 01:12:05,750
forebears of just ten thousand years ago

1457
01:12:12,530 --> 01:12:10,140
vegetarians that's right I said it I

1458
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:12,540
said it I said it it's our diet may be

1459
01:12:16,010 --> 01:12:14,010
on to something I think I think that's

1460
01:12:19,790 --> 01:12:16,020
part of it yeah yeah sugar and protein

1461
01:12:23,330 --> 01:12:19,800
read me now that that's sugars a fairly

1462
01:12:24,980 --> 01:12:23,340
recent a very recent it's why that's

1463
01:12:26,900 --> 01:12:24,990
right a couple of years that's right

1464
01:12:30,110 --> 01:12:26,910
hold on

1465
01:12:34,530 --> 01:12:30,120
it's this what God is here our

1466
01:12:37,940 --> 01:12:34,540
development to right here right now or

1467
01:12:41,970 --> 01:12:37,950
a couple of things one we ate red meat

1468
01:12:45,180 --> 01:12:41,980
forever okay it wasn't until 10,000

1469
01:12:48,660 --> 01:12:45,190
years ago where we developed the ability

1470
01:12:51,660 --> 01:12:48,670
to break down starches in our mouth

1471
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:51,670
that's right okay so that was the

1472
01:12:58,440 --> 01:12:54,000
beginning of the degrading of the brain

1473
01:13:00,680 --> 01:12:58,450
why I agree with you so we're we're on

1474
01:13:02,820 --> 01:13:00,690
it I just heard this really cool book

1475
01:13:05,580 --> 01:13:02,830
earlier this year called against the

1476
01:13:08,340 --> 01:13:05,590
grain isn't that interesting title by I

1477
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:08,350
think he's over at Yale named James

1478
01:13:12,990 --> 01:13:11,770
Scott and I've talked about him a lot

1479
01:13:15,480 --> 01:13:13,000
this year I wonder how he thinks about

1480
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:15,490
having a UFO research you're really into

1481
01:13:20,430 --> 01:13:17,410
his book but anyway but be that as it

1482
01:13:22,500 --> 01:13:20,440
may he makes this argument essentially

1483
01:13:24,390 --> 01:13:22,510
the amount of mass that we've lost from

1484
01:13:26,190 --> 01:13:24,400
our brain is equivalent to someone

1485
01:13:28,440 --> 01:13:26,200
taking an ice cream scoop to their brain

1486
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:28,450
and removing that amount and then you

1487
01:13:33,210 --> 01:13:30,010
get our brain like that's actually how

1488
01:13:36,090 --> 01:13:33,220
much they've lost and and it's it's

1489
01:13:38,670 --> 01:13:36,100
partly the the protein or the meat thing

1490
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:38,680
I think that's true but I think even in

1491
01:13:42,750 --> 01:13:41,050
a more general sense it's you know we

1492
01:13:45,630 --> 01:13:42,760
think of how we domesticated other

1493
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:45,640
animals like the sheep or like the dog

1494
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:46,810
or like goats

1495
01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:49,090
well we've also he pointed out similarly

1496
01:13:53,130 --> 01:13:51,070
domesticated ourselves as a species

1497
01:13:55,620 --> 01:13:53,140
because it's not simply that our brains

1498
01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:55,630
are smaller we have 20% less bone

1499
01:14:00,060 --> 01:13:58,210
density we have less muscle mass our

1500
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:00,070
best athletes today would be totally

1501
01:14:05,370 --> 01:14:02,650
run-of-the-mill 10,000 years ago it's an

1502
01:14:06,810 --> 01:14:05,380
amazing thing now scientists today will

1503
01:14:09,210 --> 01:14:06,820
say well yeah we have a smaller brain

1504
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:09,220
but it's better organized which is like

1505
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:11,650
that's first of all who really knows

1506
01:14:15,510 --> 01:14:14,050
secondly that's a pretty lame booby

1507
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:15,520
prize if you really get down to it like

1508
01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:17,050
oh yeah we'd better organize it's a

1509
01:14:22,020 --> 01:14:20,320
smaller brain so I think well it what it

1510
01:14:24,780 --> 01:14:22,030
means is that the hunter-gatherers had

1511
01:14:26,460 --> 01:14:24,790
much more to do with their brain

1512
01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:26,470
actually than we do like they had to be

1513
01:14:32,850 --> 01:14:30,310
on their game every single day you had

1514
01:14:34,620 --> 01:14:32,860
to know where the birds are migrating

1515
01:14:35,940 --> 01:14:34,630
what time of year they're migrating

1516
01:14:37,770 --> 01:14:35,950
where these animals going to migrate

1517
01:14:40,740 --> 01:14:37,780
from here to there and how do you how do

1518
01:14:42,300 --> 01:14:40,750
you organize yourself to be able to

1519
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:42,310
capture that amount of food and so forth

1520
01:14:46,979 --> 01:14:45,730
like it's really amazing the amount of

1521
01:14:48,420 --> 01:14:46,989
planning

1522
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:48,430
and coordination that had to be done in

1523
01:14:53,070 --> 01:14:50,530
that type of society and and with

1524
01:14:56,250 --> 01:14:53,080
sedentary agriculture so it's partly

1525
01:14:59,370 --> 01:14:56,260
diet but partly just the way that we

1526
01:15:01,410 --> 01:14:59,380
live in these in these societies certain

1527
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:01,420
types of skills are not needed yeah the

1528
01:15:06,030 --> 01:15:03,850
brain never shut down they never shut

1529
01:15:09,470 --> 01:15:06,040
down back then you had to survive me

1530
01:15:10,650 --> 01:15:09,480
sleep sleep that night time was about

1531
01:15:13,260 --> 01:15:10,660
surviving

1532
01:15:14,910 --> 01:15:13,270
it wasn't about relaxation you had to

1533
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:14,920
figure out how you were gonna make it

1534
01:15:20,130 --> 01:15:17,770
through the night right so your brain

1535
01:15:24,020 --> 01:15:20,140
never shut down it was it was it was

1536
01:15:27,780 --> 01:15:24,030
focused on survival and and and

1537
01:15:31,470 --> 01:15:27,790
expanding your family right and and

1538
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:31,480
eating 24/7 it was constantly constantly

1539
01:15:35,220 --> 01:15:34,210
thinking today so I know you're saying

1540
01:15:37,229 --> 01:15:35,230
that you think we're getting smarter

1541
01:15:40,110 --> 01:15:37,239
like I I understand what you mean like

1542
01:15:42,450 --> 01:15:40,120
we were learning more about the way the

1543
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:42,460
world in the universe is but I don't

1544
01:15:46,740 --> 01:15:45,610
really know like in our society even if

1545
01:15:48,510 --> 01:15:46,750
we actually are becoming more

1546
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:48,520
intelligent I think in a lot of ways one

1547
01:15:53,459 --> 01:15:50,110
can arguably becoming much less

1548
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:53,469
intelligent then aren't even even like

1549
01:15:59,490 --> 01:15:55,210
our great grandparents generation or

1550
01:16:03,959 --> 01:15:59,500
prior now okay so so back to the UFO

1551
01:16:07,260 --> 01:16:03,969
question when we look at the basic of

1552
01:16:09,450 --> 01:16:07,270
the basics which is entropy right that's

1553
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:09,460
it if we just and and you can apply that

1554
01:16:13,979 --> 01:16:12,730
to your day-to-day existence right you

1555
01:16:16,020 --> 01:16:13,989
start off in the morning pretty

1556
01:16:19,050 --> 01:16:16,030
organized you get to the end of the day

1557
01:16:21,660 --> 01:16:19,060
and it's all come apart right or or you

1558
01:16:24,030 --> 01:16:21,670
could look at it as the universe and the

1559
01:16:26,220 --> 01:16:24,040
Big Bang or you can look at us as hot

1560
01:16:29,300 --> 01:16:26,230
society today which is coming apart at

1561
01:16:33,660 --> 01:16:29,310
the seams whatever it is well certainly

1562
01:16:37,860 --> 01:16:33,670
et is dealing with those same things so

1563
01:16:40,530 --> 01:16:37,870
they would have to organize get keep it

1564
01:16:44,940 --> 01:16:40,540
together and not dissolve as a

1565
01:16:48,030 --> 01:16:44,950
civilization long enough to come here so

1566
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:48,040
they may have figured figured out a way

1567
01:16:52,890 --> 01:16:51,040
to get around entropy and we need to

1568
01:16:54,780 --> 01:16:52,900
figure that out if we're going to go to

1569
01:16:57,959 --> 01:16:54,790
the stars if we're gonna go interstellar

1570
01:16:59,310 --> 01:16:57,969
we need to be around in the future we

1571
01:17:01,530 --> 01:16:59,320
need to flare out

1572
01:17:05,250 --> 01:17:01,540
not come apart may I suggest one thing

1573
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:05,260
that I think they may have done and you

1574
01:17:09,900 --> 01:17:06,610
may not you're not gonna like this but

1575
01:17:12,150 --> 01:17:09,910
one thing they may have done is look if

1576
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:12,160
you really go by the research of some

1577
01:17:17,550 --> 01:17:14,110
let's say abduction researchers people

1578
01:17:18,900 --> 01:17:17,560
like David Jacobs for example we're not

1579
01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:18,910
even just him but a number of other

1580
01:17:25,170 --> 01:17:22,080
these researchers who talk about these

1581
01:17:26,730 --> 01:17:25,180
aliens that have a kind of hive mind in

1582
01:17:28,530 --> 01:17:26,740
which they're totally telepathic with

1583
01:17:32,490 --> 01:17:28,540
each other but they also have no free

1584
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:32,500
will they know if one believes in this

1585
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:34,810
scenario no real creativity no real

1586
01:17:41,670 --> 01:17:38,530
independent will it's all groupthink and

1587
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:41,680
that actually can be an advantage in the

1588
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:45,010
sense that it would it would mitigate

1589
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:47,770
against a lot of fluctuations within the

1590
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:49,810
society and we one thing about human

1591
01:17:53,550 --> 01:17:52,000
society it makes us very interesting but

1592
01:17:55,290 --> 01:17:53,560
it also makes us unstable is that we've

1593
01:17:57,090 --> 01:17:55,300
got all these different people with

1594
01:17:58,740 --> 01:17:57,100
different ideas and we argue with each

1595
01:18:01,260 --> 01:17:58,750
other and we're fighting for resources

1596
01:18:03,870 --> 01:18:01,270
and so forth if we live like the Borg

1597
01:18:05,790 --> 01:18:03,880
like within a hive mind where we're all

1598
01:18:08,790 --> 01:18:05,800
just following orders we're all

1599
01:18:11,130 --> 01:18:08,800
literally created artificially created

1600
01:18:13,950 --> 01:18:11,140
for a purpose and we do not exceed that

1601
01:18:15,990 --> 01:18:13,960
purpose first of all that would be a

1602
01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:16,000
horrible way for I think all of us to

1603
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:18,880
live we I think it's fair to agree but

1604
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:20,880
it would also create a much more stable

1605
01:18:29,430 --> 01:18:24,490
at least in theory a more stable society

1606
01:18:32,730 --> 01:18:29,440
and it could just allow them as long as

1607
01:18:36,780 --> 01:18:32,740
they're not dealing with new challenges

1608
01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:36,790
to them they could be stable for a very

1609
01:18:43,530 --> 01:18:39,910
long time like that and control entropy

1610
01:18:46,260 --> 01:18:43,540
very very interesting point yeah but

1611
01:18:48,030 --> 01:18:46,270
still they themselves you know I mean in

1612
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:48,040
the way that this is how evolution works

1613
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:50,130
like think of an animal like the shark

1614
01:18:54,900 --> 01:18:53,050
the shark hasn't changed in evolutionary

1615
01:18:56,970 --> 01:18:54,910
terms or these most shark species

1616
01:19:00,420 --> 01:18:56,980
haven't for a long time like the sharks

1617
01:19:04,740 --> 01:19:00,430
been a very stable species for a long

1618
01:19:06,330 --> 01:19:04,750
long time and there's not a whole lot of

1619
01:19:08,940 --> 01:19:06,340
innovation in a shark like a shark just

1620
01:19:10,890 --> 01:19:08,950
it's a it's an ocean killing machine

1621
01:19:13,190 --> 01:19:10,900
right right but it's able to do that

1622
01:19:16,940 --> 01:19:13,200
because it's incredibly well

1623
01:19:19,130 --> 01:19:16,950
designed to do what it does and so it's

1624
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:19,140
been a very stable form for a long time

1625
01:19:24,410 --> 01:19:22,170
now if the shark were to deal with an

1626
01:19:27,140 --> 01:19:24,420
ocean predator that was much more

1627
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:27,150
intense and it much more capable than it

1628
01:19:31,070 --> 01:19:29,760
rather then it would it would face its

1629
01:19:32,450 --> 01:19:31,080
problems in fact it's doing that now

1630
01:19:35,420 --> 01:19:32,460
because it's coming up against human

1631
01:19:40,070 --> 01:19:35,430
beings and it's a shark can't really

1632
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:40,080
adapt to those threats and and and and

1633
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:43,650
so if an alien species may be very very

1634
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:47,850
well adapted to dominate its ecosystem

1635
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:52,650
as it were until it comes up with

1636
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:55,530
against the species that is perhaps more

1637
01:20:01,010 --> 01:19:57,930
capable more creative more dangerous and

1638
01:20:03,740 --> 01:20:01,020
then they might have to adapt from their

1639
01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:03,750
hive mentality conceivably into

1640
01:20:09,380 --> 01:20:05,520
something that might be more innovative

1641
01:20:11,330 --> 01:20:09,390
I'm just hypothesizing here but but it

1642
01:20:15,370 --> 01:20:11,340
does seem to me that as long as a

1643
01:20:18,440 --> 01:20:15,380
species doesn't encounter grave threats

1644
01:20:22,340 --> 01:20:18,450
from somewhere else they can survive a

1645
01:20:27,020 --> 01:20:22,350
long long time under conditions of

1646
01:20:31,370 --> 01:20:27,030
basically a complete totalitarian hive

1647
01:20:35,300 --> 01:20:31,380
like society if we and one of the one of

1648
01:20:40,010 --> 01:20:35,310
the basic questions that I have when we

1649
01:20:41,930 --> 01:20:40,020
consider all of this you know et you

1650
01:20:44,270 --> 01:20:41,940
know civilizations that are out there

1651
01:20:46,820 --> 01:20:44,280
which are probably in the tens of

1652
01:20:49,790 --> 01:20:46,830
millions it's not one two three four it

1653
01:20:53,530 --> 01:20:49,800
is it's an extraordinarily large number

1654
01:20:56,270 --> 01:20:53,540
that has been reproducing and and and

1655
01:20:58,730 --> 01:20:56,280
you know interstellar travel and taking

1656
01:21:00,350 --> 01:20:58,740
over planets and and moving forward and

1657
01:21:02,630 --> 01:21:00,360
expanding just like we do here on earth

1658
01:21:05,420 --> 01:21:02,640
you know that's what we do we we go and

1659
01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:05,430
occupy new land and and we do that we

1660
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:09,600
grow well if that is the case why

1661
01:21:16,820 --> 01:21:13,890
haven't they done that here it's like

1662
01:21:19,490 --> 01:21:16,830
this weird situation where obviously

1663
01:21:21,290 --> 01:21:19,500
we're more monitored they are obviously

1664
01:21:24,209 --> 01:21:21,300
here they've been checking us out

1665
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:24,219
there's been enough communication

1666
01:21:32,819 --> 01:21:28,170
and evidence of this for four millennia

1667
01:21:34,109 --> 01:21:32,829
why haven't they done that here or they

1668
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:34,119
just haven't arrived yet

1669
01:21:38,009 --> 01:21:36,489
why haven't they I'm sorry why haven't

1670
01:21:40,229 --> 01:21:38,019
you taken over that yeah take it over

1671
01:21:42,450 --> 01:21:40,239
the planet yeah well yes interesting

1672
01:21:44,609 --> 01:21:42,460
theory I mentioned Dave Jacobs a little

1673
01:21:47,310 --> 01:21:44,619
earlier and partly because I recently

1674
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:47,320
chatted with him and and had a really

1675
01:21:51,500 --> 01:21:49,090
long engaging conversation with him

1676
01:21:56,370 --> 01:21:51,510
about his research it's very interesting

1677
01:21:58,950 --> 01:21:56,380
that he you know still I'm very strongly

1678
01:22:01,319 --> 01:21:58,960
I would say believes that there had had

1679
01:22:04,799 --> 01:22:01,329
has not been a plan for an alien

1680
01:22:06,930 --> 01:22:04,809
takeover until really sometime maybe it

1681
01:22:10,919 --> 01:22:06,940
began in the 19th century so relatively

1682
01:22:12,299 --> 01:22:10,929
recently and so that's how he would

1683
01:22:13,919 --> 01:22:12,309
explain it he says they're actually

1684
01:22:15,509 --> 01:22:13,929
they've been doing it they're working on

1685
01:22:17,009 --> 01:22:15,519
it and it's just taking a little bit of

1686
01:22:18,750 --> 01:22:17,019
time but they're patient and they're

1687
01:22:20,819 --> 01:22:18,760
doing it by means of infiltration rather

1688
01:22:23,069 --> 01:22:20,829
than destroying us but then I would I

1689
01:22:24,959 --> 01:22:23,079
said to him well what about the

1690
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:24,969
phenomenon of ancient UFOs or ancient

1691
01:22:27,689 --> 01:22:26,530
aliens I mean don't you you have an

1692
01:22:29,279 --> 01:22:27,699
opinion about this do you think that

1693
01:22:33,239 --> 01:22:29,289
we've been visited for a long time I

1694
01:22:34,589 --> 01:22:33,249
mean many of us do believe this and it

1695
01:22:38,700 --> 01:22:34,599
was just interesting for me to talk to

1696
01:22:41,129 --> 01:22:38,710
an extremely I mean David's a very very

1697
01:22:44,250 --> 01:22:41,139
knowledgeable person about the entire

1698
01:22:46,770 --> 01:22:44,260
UFO phenomenon and his attitude was well

1699
01:22:47,819 --> 01:22:46,780
it's possible that they were here others

1700
01:22:50,100 --> 01:22:47,829
have been here a long time

1701
01:22:53,009 --> 01:22:50,110
he doesn't rule it out but he says look

1702
01:22:57,239 --> 01:22:53,019
we really the evidence we have is not in

1703
01:22:59,669 --> 01:22:57,249
his opinion a slam-dunk and if those

1704
01:23:02,189 --> 01:22:59,679
others have been here long ago they

1705
01:23:04,350 --> 01:23:02,199
don't seem to be here now they may have

1706
01:23:07,739 --> 01:23:04,360
come and gone but his that's his opinion

1707
01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:07,749
now I don't know if I agree with that

1708
01:23:13,410 --> 01:23:10,960
it seems like there's something wrong

1709
01:23:16,169 --> 01:23:13,420
with that on the other hand it's hard to

1710
01:23:17,879 --> 01:23:16,179
argue against the idea of this but your

1711
01:23:22,229 --> 01:23:17,889
question asking this do you have an

1712
01:23:25,410 --> 01:23:22,239
alien takeover like if if the greys were

1713
01:23:27,569 --> 01:23:25,420
here a thousand years ago and engaging

1714
01:23:29,250 --> 01:23:27,579
in a hybridization program they would

1715
01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:29,260
have done it by now they would have been

1716
01:23:35,189 --> 01:23:32,320
done so maybe David's right and that the

1717
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:35,199
the gray aliens or the insect Island

1718
01:23:38,130 --> 01:23:37,090
aliens as he calls them are only a

1719
01:23:44,700 --> 01:23:38,140
recent

1720
01:23:47,370 --> 01:23:44,710
that there may have been other other

1721
01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:47,380
types of interactions in earlier earlier

1722
01:23:52,950 --> 01:23:51,280
times it's hard to know I think that you

1723
01:23:56,610 --> 01:23:52,960
know we're still like little kids

1724
01:23:58,560 --> 01:23:56,620
looking through a dark glass window into

1725
01:23:59,550 --> 01:23:58,570
a store but we're not allowed inside and

1726
01:24:01,320 --> 01:23:59,560
we're just trying to figure out what's

1727
01:24:02,910 --> 01:24:01,330
going on there's still so much that is

1728
01:24:05,070 --> 01:24:02,920
opaque to us and that's the maddening

1729
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:05,080
thing yeah yeah all I can say is that

1730
01:24:08,700 --> 01:24:06,250
there's there's definitely another

1731
01:24:12,750 --> 01:24:08,710
intelligence or intelligences that are

1732
01:24:15,420 --> 01:24:12,760
interacting with us here and you know I

1733
01:24:17,970 --> 01:24:15,430
feel like we're making we've made some

1734
01:24:20,700 --> 01:24:17,980
progress over the last several

1735
01:24:23,010 --> 01:24:20,710
generations but we have a long way to go

1736
01:24:27,540 --> 01:24:23,020
and figuring this out yeah and I keep

1737
01:24:29,670 --> 01:24:27,550
going back to when when I try to answer

1738
01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:29,680
that question well why haven't they done

1739
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:33,040
it you know why well it's we keep

1740
01:24:40,380 --> 01:24:37,090
thinking that earth is the only perfect

1741
01:24:43,140 --> 01:24:40,390
planet that this is the only one like

1742
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:43,150
you know that it's so unique here and

1743
01:24:48,750 --> 01:24:45,280
and the water and and the distance from

1744
01:24:51,060 --> 01:24:48,760
the Sun it's just so unique I'm gonna be

1745
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:51,070
straight that the minerals the things

1746
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:53,010
the resources that are here are

1747
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:55,810
scattered all over this galaxy and there

1748
01:25:01,020 --> 01:24:58,090
are bigger and better planets and more

1749
01:25:04,620 --> 01:25:01,030
cool places than Earth it just may not

1750
01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:04,630
be that appealing there may be other

1751
01:25:10,890 --> 01:25:08,080
well I'm just trying to figure we'd be

1752
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:10,900
of value we have a lot of heavy minerals

1753
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:14,290
we've got an abundance of life and even

1754
01:25:18,450 --> 01:25:16,810
if life is abundant elsewhere in the

1755
01:25:21,780 --> 01:25:18,460
universe we still have I would say

1756
01:25:24,570 --> 01:25:21,790
unique potentially many unique forms of

1757
01:25:26,910 --> 01:25:24,580
genetic material that a if you're if

1758
01:25:28,020 --> 01:25:26,920
you're skilled at manipulating genetic

1759
01:25:29,970 --> 01:25:28,030
material that could be quite valuable

1760
01:25:32,130 --> 01:25:29,980
there could be a number of reasons why

1761
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:32,140
other beings would be interested in us

1762
01:25:37,740 --> 01:25:34,960
and and indeed interested in us human

1763
01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:37,750
beings it's easy for us to disparage

1764
01:25:43,730 --> 01:25:39,760
ourselves but I maintain that we're

1765
01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:43,740
really a fascinating species and we have

1766
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:46,510
definite high order of intelligence

1767
01:25:50,130 --> 01:25:48,250
we're not omnipotent we're not

1768
01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:50,140
omniscient but we're able to figure

1769
01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:51,450
things out and wait

1770
01:25:57,740 --> 01:25:55,920
interesting we come up with ideas told

1771
01:25:59,360 --> 01:25:57,750
you lame Shakespeare and Beethoven and

1772
01:26:02,420 --> 01:25:59,370
we've had other interesting interesting

1773
01:26:05,330 --> 01:26:02,430
intellectuals throughout our our time so

1774
01:26:09,140 --> 01:26:05,340
I think other people other beings who

1775
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:09,150
have been able to observe us could very

1776
01:26:14,420 --> 01:26:11,850
well think you know keep an eye on these

1777
01:26:16,940 --> 01:26:14,430
people they may they may turn up to do

1778
01:26:19,550 --> 01:26:16,950
something very interesting well you know

1779
01:26:20,990 --> 01:26:19,560
the the question of water is brought up

1780
01:26:23,690 --> 01:26:21,000
a lot we have so much water on this

1781
01:26:27,860 --> 01:26:23,700
planet but if you're an advanced alien

1782
01:26:31,250 --> 01:26:27,870
species you are the most abundant things

1783
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:31,260
in this universe well one of them the

1784
01:26:36,350 --> 01:26:33,930
top of the list is hydrogen you can get

1785
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:36,360
what water is everywhere you could

1786
01:26:40,190 --> 01:26:38,370
manufacture it you can extrapolate you

1787
01:26:42,710 --> 01:26:40,200
could pull out any minerals anything

1788
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:42,720
that you need out of any star if you

1789
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:45,330
have the technology you can go and

1790
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:47,970
manufacture and get all of the resources

1791
01:26:52,250 --> 01:26:50,130
that you need to build a Dyson Sphere

1792
01:26:54,440 --> 01:26:52,260
right to be that kind of advanced

1793
01:26:57,020 --> 01:26:54,450
civilization to go and do that you're

1794
01:26:58,970 --> 01:26:57,030
not using the the minerals off of your

1795
01:27:00,650 --> 01:26:58,980
planet the resources off of your plane

1796
01:27:02,750 --> 01:27:00,660
you wouldn't have a planet left you're

1797
01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:02,760
gonna be able to go and get those and

1798
01:27:07,670 --> 01:27:05,280
manufacture that stuff that's that's my

1799
01:27:10,490 --> 01:27:07,680
take so that's I'm just trying to figure

1800
01:27:12,980 --> 01:27:10,500
out why you know well just maybe we're

1801
01:27:15,500 --> 01:27:12,990
not that unique they're here checking

1802
01:27:17,180 --> 01:27:15,510
out maybe modifying our DNA and visiting

1803
01:27:18,260 --> 01:27:17,190
every day because it's interesting and

1804
01:27:20,930 --> 01:27:18,270
they're doing the same thing with

1805
01:27:23,150 --> 01:27:20,940
millions of other planets and cataloging

1806
01:27:26,030 --> 01:27:23,160
and doing the science and and and

1807
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:26,040
hanging out here sure sure that all of

1808
01:27:29,450 --> 01:27:27,810
that is going on but I'm trying to

1809
01:27:33,910 --> 01:27:29,460
figure out why we haven't been invaded

1810
01:27:36,770 --> 01:27:33,920
right why we haven't been wiped off look

1811
01:27:39,230 --> 01:27:36,780
if you are going to have a giant

1812
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:39,240
Colossus mothership and you're gonna

1813
01:27:43,610 --> 01:27:41,850
travel across the universe to come here

1814
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:43,620
and wipe this out you're not gonna have

1815
01:27:50,150 --> 01:27:46,050
a shootout with laser guns you're gonna

1816
01:27:54,050 --> 01:27:50,160
have a virus and whatever it's gonna be

1817
01:27:57,310 --> 01:27:54,060
the craziest instantaneous takeover we

1818
01:27:59,750 --> 01:27:57,320
wouldn't even know that it happened

1819
01:28:01,510 --> 01:27:59,760
they'd need some time to figure that

1820
01:28:03,010 --> 01:28:01,520
stuff out I mean even a high

1821
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:03,020
intelligent technologically advanced

1822
01:28:07,420 --> 01:28:04,610
other civilization would need to come

1823
01:28:09,340 --> 01:28:07,430
here do some tests figure out what kind

1824
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:09,350
of virus can we create and so forth so

1825
01:28:14,710 --> 01:28:11,330
it wouldn't it wouldn't be necessarily

1826
01:28:17,170 --> 01:28:14,720
immediate or in theory sure sure sure

1827
01:28:20,140 --> 01:28:17,180
and they that's some kind of crazy

1828
01:28:22,780 --> 01:28:20,150
atomic weapon you know whatever you know

1829
01:28:25,630 --> 01:28:22,790
but it would you would think if they had

1830
01:28:27,310 --> 01:28:25,640
the resources to have a ship to get here

1831
01:28:29,740 --> 01:28:27,320
they've got all the time in the world

1832
01:28:32,620 --> 01:28:29,750
and and all the technology to take us

1833
01:28:35,020 --> 01:28:32,630
out so why so what happens I don't know

1834
01:28:36,870 --> 01:28:35,030
yeah we don't think we have an answer to

1835
01:28:39,460 --> 01:28:36,880
that and that's why you're on this show

1836
01:28:41,950 --> 01:28:39,470
let's take a break right here Richard it

1837
01:28:43,930 --> 01:28:41,960
is our fifth anniversary Richard bleep

1838
01:28:45,940 --> 01:28:43,940
and Dolan is our guest this is fade to

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01:28:49,090 --> 01:28:45,950
black I'm here Jimmy Church you can

1840
01:28:52,330 --> 01:28:49,100
follow me on twitter @jj radio and you

1841
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:52,340
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1842
01:29:01,080 --> 01:28:55,130
right back stay with us

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and Katie RA the planet tonight is our

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us and Richard now I want to get into

1929
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your mind a little bit in in this

1930
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respect you see something strange in the

1931
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sky we've done that together you've had

1932
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your own sightings on on your own too as

1933
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well and we don't need to revisit any of

1934
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:10,770
that but when you see something what

1935
01:34:15,140 --> 01:34:13,050
goes through your mind what how how do

1936
01:34:17,420 --> 01:34:15,150
you start to calculate what how do you

1937
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formulate what what what goes through

1938
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your mind

1939
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I've only haven't had too many moments

1940
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:23,850
in my life when I have seen what I think

1941
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:29,130
is a UFO I mean I could say three or

1942
01:34:35,510 --> 01:34:32,250
maybe even four distinct occasions one

1943
01:34:38,750 --> 01:34:35,520
of them where I was with you at contact

1944
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:38,760
in the desert a few years ago and on all

1945
01:34:43,390 --> 01:34:41,010
of the occasions particularly the first

1946
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two where I was with each of my children

1947
01:34:48,260 --> 01:34:46,110
first my son and then years later with

1948
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my daughter

1949
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I saw something unusual in the sky that

1950
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really made me stop and and go through

1951
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all of that the checklist is alike could

1952
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it be this could it be that and could it

1953
01:35:04,850 --> 01:35:02,430
be this and so in other words like the

1954
01:35:07,070 --> 01:35:04,860
first time I saw what I feel is a UFO I

1955
01:35:09,350 --> 01:35:07,080
was with my son about twenty years ago

1956
01:35:13,130 --> 01:35:09,360
almost twenty years ago he was very

1957
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little and and I've talked about this a

1958
01:35:17,810 --> 01:35:15,300
few times it was a very bright object in

1959
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:17,820
the daytime sky that just was incredibly

1960
01:35:24,290 --> 01:35:22,170
bright and I remember thinking this is

1961
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unusual don't take your eyes away that

1962
01:35:29,900 --> 01:35:26,840
was probably the first most important

1963
01:35:32,690 --> 01:35:29,910
reaction was I was locked in and I'll

1964
01:35:35,210 --> 01:35:32,700
bet this is the case with the large

1965
01:35:37,670 --> 01:35:35,220
majority of people who see a UFO like

1966
01:35:40,100 --> 01:35:37,680
they can't you do not take your eyes off

1967
01:35:45,050 --> 01:35:40,110
of it you're fixated and I was totally

1968
01:35:47,690 --> 01:35:45,060
fixated on this thing and and then I

1969
01:35:50,090 --> 01:35:47,700
kept asking myself is that a plane why

1970
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:50,100
is it moving so oddly why can't I see

1971
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:52,050
what the shape of it is why is it so

1972
01:35:56,420 --> 01:35:54,330
bright why does seem to be just bright

1973
01:35:56,870 --> 01:35:56,430
directed like right at me like why is

1974
01:35:59,330 --> 01:35:56,880
that

1975
01:36:01,190 --> 01:35:59,340
and then why do I have this idea in my

1976
01:36:03,050 --> 01:36:01,200
mind don't look away because if I look

1977
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:03,060
away I'll never see it again ever the

1978
01:36:06,860 --> 01:36:05,130
most illogical thought that occurred to

1979
01:36:10,060 --> 01:36:06,870
me was that thought this actually

1980
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:10,070
happened to me it there was like this

1981
01:36:14,540 --> 01:36:12,810
almost a command like don't look away it

1982
01:36:20,210 --> 01:36:14,550
wasn't a command but I felt it like that

1983
01:36:22,910 --> 01:36:20,220
and so I mean that's what happens with

1984
01:36:25,790 --> 01:36:22,920
me you know it's a very I think I guess

1985
01:36:28,250 --> 01:36:25,800
what I'm trying to say is when when

1986
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:28,260
someone and I'm extrapolating other

1987
01:36:33,970 --> 01:36:29,610
people here but I'm just gonna guess

1988
01:36:37,820 --> 01:36:33,980
when someone sees a UFO it's like

1989
01:36:41,980 --> 01:36:37,830
everything stops their mind just goes at

1990
01:36:45,980 --> 01:36:41,990
full speed ahead and absolute focus

1991
01:36:50,170 --> 01:36:45,990
it's an unusual feeling like every time

1992
01:36:54,260 --> 01:36:50,180
it's happened to me I felt that my

1993
01:36:58,070 --> 01:36:54,270
senses were turned way up I felt that my

1994
01:37:00,890 --> 01:36:58,080
my mind was turned way up and that my

1995
01:37:04,220 --> 01:37:00,900
focus was crystal clear I felt like that

1996
01:37:07,310 --> 01:37:04,230
every single time and it's like you have

1997
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:07,320
this knowingness that something special

1998
01:37:12,380 --> 01:37:10,170
is happening like I felt that way each

1999
01:37:13,670 --> 01:37:12,390
time it's interesting you know I've

2000
01:37:16,010 --> 01:37:13,680
never really thought about it and

2001
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:16,020
exactly those those terms but I think

2002
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:18,810
it's all true like you get this deep

2003
01:37:28,790 --> 01:37:23,330
feeling this is different with you yeah

2004
01:37:31,850 --> 01:37:28,800
you know I talked about this sighting I

2005
01:37:35,030 --> 01:37:31,860
know that I mentioned it to you earlier

2006
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:35,040
this year when it happened but I had

2007
01:37:40,580 --> 01:37:37,890
this daylight sighting of it up at East

2008
01:37:44,060 --> 01:37:40,590
SETI and it just happened to be Eddie

2009
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:44,070
said he but it was so unique and Steve

2010
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:46,170
Murillo you know our close friend and

2011
01:37:53,180 --> 01:37:48,690
you know Steve well Ray was sitting next

2012
01:37:55,100 --> 01:37:53,190
to me and this man a daylight right

2013
01:38:00,740 --> 01:37:55,110
three o'clock in the afternoon

2014
01:38:03,650 --> 01:38:00,750
and this spinning it was upright like I

2015
01:38:06,380 --> 01:38:03,660
keep describing it as a beer can because

2016
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:06,390
it had this it was forty miles away it

2017
01:38:12,770 --> 01:38:09,330
popped out behind Mount Adams and it was

2018
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:12,780
so how can you be that exact okay first

2019
01:38:16,730 --> 01:38:15,090
off I was looking at the top of Mount

2020
01:38:18,890 --> 01:38:16,740
Adams with everybody else in the middle

2021
01:38:21,710 --> 01:38:18,900
of the day with a pair of binoculars on

2022
01:38:24,020 --> 01:38:21,720
a tripod right so I'm just looking at

2023
01:38:25,790 --> 01:38:24,030
the mountain enjoying nature and just

2024
01:38:27,260 --> 01:38:25,800
watching the birds flying around and I'm

2025
01:38:28,700 --> 01:38:27,270
you know just just checking out the

2026
01:38:30,860 --> 01:38:28,710
mountain it all said and it just

2027
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:30,870
happened and right out behind the

2028
01:38:39,050 --> 01:38:35,370
mountain it was this giant object

2029
01:38:42,620 --> 01:38:39,060
it was round it was tubular like a can

2030
01:38:46,250 --> 01:38:42,630
suck it I can spinning and it had a

2031
01:38:50,030 --> 01:38:46,260
silver circle in the middle of it like a

2032
01:38:52,820 --> 01:38:50,040
logo like like a frigate beard adman and

2033
01:38:55,310 --> 01:38:52,830
it was black with the silver logo and it

2034
01:38:57,950 --> 01:38:55,320
had silver on the top and the bottom but

2035
01:38:59,600 --> 01:38:57,960
you know Mount Adams is 14 miles away

2036
01:39:02,060 --> 01:38:59,610
and looking at the size of this object

2037
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:02,070
I'm guessing when I say a couple of

2038
01:39:06,470 --> 01:39:04,050
hundred feet tall I don't know you know

2039
01:39:08,420 --> 01:39:06,480
it was it was ginormous and it's

2040
01:39:11,150 --> 01:39:08,430
spinning right now the whole thing only

2041
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:11,160
lasted about 15 seconds but I entered

2042
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:13,530
into the zone exactly what you're

2043
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:14,370
talking about

2044
01:39:20,510 --> 01:39:17,370
I was focused the Sun is bouncing off of

2045
01:39:23,630 --> 01:39:20,520
it it's moving slowly I was able to

2046
01:39:26,750 --> 01:39:23,640
absorb the whole moment and know exactly

2047
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:26,760
what I was looking at and it was

2048
01:39:34,460 --> 01:39:30,810
extraordinary and so but I took my eyes

2049
01:39:36,440 --> 01:39:34,470
off of it right I did the exact opposite

2050
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:36,450
I jumped up and was yelling at everybody

2051
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:38,370
to shoot video and to start taking

2052
01:39:44,930 --> 01:39:42,690
pictures yeah and I came back to the to

2053
01:39:48,020 --> 01:39:44,940
the binoculars and as I go to sit down

2054
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:48,030
Murilo sitting next to me yeah with his

2055
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:50,010
naked eye goes I see it it's black it's

2056
01:39:57,740 --> 01:39:52,170
got a silver thing at spinning and I was

2057
01:40:00,250 --> 01:39:57,750
like all thank God right I jump back on

2058
01:40:03,410 --> 01:40:00,260
the binoculars I look I see it again I

2059
01:40:05,570 --> 01:40:03,420
get back off look at it with my naked

2060
01:40:07,729 --> 01:40:05,580
eye and it's way out there you know it's

2061
01:40:09,649 --> 01:40:07,739
black but I could see it spinning

2062
01:40:13,970 --> 01:40:09,659
and I get back on the binoculars it's

2063
01:40:16,879 --> 01:40:13,980
gone and I took my eyes off of it so I

2064
01:40:19,879 --> 01:40:16,889
didn't see when I came back to look at

2065
01:40:21,770 --> 01:40:19,889
the naked it's gone the thing about this

2066
01:40:26,350 --> 01:40:21,780
phenomenon it's really one of the most

2067
01:40:29,359 --> 01:40:26,360
maddening things and we really need to

2068
01:40:32,180 --> 01:40:29,369
grasp the significance of this because

2069
01:40:33,770 --> 01:40:32,190
this happened to me it happened to you I

2070
01:40:36,020 --> 01:40:33,780
think it's happened to countless other

2071
01:40:39,500 --> 01:40:36,030
peoples where you're dealing with a

2072
01:40:41,930 --> 01:40:39,510
phenomenon that is truly ephemeral that

2073
01:40:45,379 --> 01:40:41,940
doesn't mean it's not there it means

2074
01:40:48,529 --> 01:40:45,389
it's there and then it's just gone in

2075
01:40:51,319 --> 01:40:48,539
ways that no one can figure out this has

2076
01:40:55,330 --> 01:40:51,329
happened so many times it's clearly it

2077
01:40:58,430 --> 01:40:55,340
is a key part of this phenomenon as as a

2078
01:40:59,149 --> 01:40:58,440
as a thing as a physical event in our in

2079
01:41:01,640 --> 01:40:59,159
our universe

2080
01:41:04,819 --> 01:41:01,650
it's an important element of it like its

2081
01:41:07,459 --> 01:41:04,829
ability to just leave without us

2082
01:41:12,009 --> 01:41:07,469
figuring out how it left yeah you know

2083
01:41:15,950 --> 01:41:12,019
and that I have said over and over again

2084
01:41:19,189 --> 01:41:15,960
my lesson learned don't get excited

2085
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:19,199
do not get excited and do not take your

2086
01:41:23,930 --> 01:41:21,570
eyes off of it because I didn't get to

2087
01:41:26,209 --> 01:41:23,940
see the exit I didn't get to see the

2088
01:41:27,979 --> 01:41:26,219
finish I didn't see it disappear I

2089
01:41:30,470 --> 01:41:27,989
didn't see it vaporize I didn't see it

2090
01:41:34,700 --> 01:41:30,480
fly away I didn't see it shoot of what I

2091
01:41:37,009 --> 01:41:34,710
didn't see that and it's I just man what

2092
01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:37,019
a regret you know and I don't know the

2093
01:41:40,489 --> 01:41:38,880
Holy Grail right the daylight sighting

2094
01:41:43,009 --> 01:41:40,499
you know something like that I don't

2095
01:41:45,709 --> 01:41:43,019
know if it'll ever happen again but I

2096
01:41:47,330 --> 01:41:45,719
didn't get to see to see what happened I

2097
01:41:49,790 --> 01:41:47,340
didn't see I'm glad that you had the

2098
01:41:52,939 --> 01:41:49,800
experience honestly and I would love to

2099
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:52,949
have something similar to what I had or

2100
01:41:58,520 --> 01:41:56,610
even even better one day but that's

2101
01:42:00,410 --> 01:41:58,530
that's the thing about this phenomenon

2102
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:00,420
that we are talking about it makes it

2103
01:42:04,669 --> 01:42:02,130
very hard to study scientifically

2104
01:42:07,489 --> 01:42:04,679
because it's like it appears when it

2105
01:42:09,410 --> 01:42:07,499
decides to appear and this is one of the

2106
01:42:12,589 --> 01:42:09,420
problems from a scientific perspective

2107
01:42:16,489 --> 01:42:12,599
incidentally like a scientist wouldn't

2108
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:16,499
necessarily deny that UFOs are are real

2109
01:42:20,820 --> 01:42:19,530
but a scientist might say that's all

2110
01:42:22,350 --> 01:42:20,830
well and good but from a

2111
01:42:23,670 --> 01:42:22,360
EPIK point of view we really can't do

2112
01:42:27,300 --> 01:42:23,680
anything with it because we don't have a

2113
01:42:29,220 --> 01:42:27,310
way to examine it for for an object to

2114
01:42:31,770 --> 01:42:29,230
be or for anything to be examined

2115
01:42:34,860 --> 01:42:31,780
scientifically there's got to be some

2116
01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:34,870
control that the scientist is going to

2117
01:42:41,460 --> 01:42:37,450
have over the experiment and whether in

2118
01:42:43,500 --> 01:42:41,470
terms of observation or you know being

2119
01:42:46,260 --> 01:42:43,510
able to replicate the results and so

2120
01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:46,270
forth and the problem is that if we're

2121
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:47,440
dealing with an intelligence that's

2122
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:50,290
greater than our own like which is very

2123
01:42:56,250 --> 01:42:52,930
possibly the case right and if they are

2124
01:42:59,520 --> 01:42:56,260
in control of this and we may not have a

2125
01:43:01,830 --> 01:42:59,530
whole lot that our science can do in

2126
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:01,840
order to grapple with us and and instead

2127
01:43:07,380 --> 01:43:04,330
we find ourselves kind of mentally

2128
01:43:09,420 --> 01:43:07,390
flailing at this like you did and like

2129
01:43:10,740 --> 01:43:09,430
I've done and trying to understand

2130
01:43:12,860 --> 01:43:10,750
because we know in the case when I was

2131
01:43:16,530 --> 01:43:12,870
with my son when he was three years old

2132
01:43:19,440 --> 01:43:16,540
I was staring at this object with a

2133
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:19,450
great amount of focus but my son was

2134
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:22,210
demanding my attention and I thought

2135
01:43:26,550 --> 01:43:24,610
okay I have to be a father for a second

2136
01:43:29,580 --> 01:43:26,560
here so I I took my eyes off

2137
01:43:31,860 --> 01:43:29,590
I actually pointed to it in the sky with

2138
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:31,870
my left arm to hold its position and I

2139
01:43:37,530 --> 01:43:35,650
turned for one second to my son one

2140
01:43:38,730 --> 01:43:37,540
second and I said hang on I'm watching

2141
01:43:40,770 --> 01:43:38,740
something that's it

2142
01:43:42,540 --> 01:43:40,780
and I went back to look at it again and

2143
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:42,550
it was gone in that one second then I

2144
01:43:49,290 --> 01:43:44,880
turned away it had been this very bright

2145
01:43:53,460 --> 01:43:49,300
intensely bright object in a completely

2146
01:43:56,430 --> 01:43:53,470
cloudless sky where is it going to hide

2147
01:43:58,290 --> 01:43:56,440
there is nowhere for it to go right and

2148
01:44:00,060 --> 01:43:58,300
yet it was gone in the second that I

2149
01:44:02,130 --> 01:44:00,070
turned away I've never been able to

2150
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:02,140
figure that one out that's just that's

2151
01:44:06,030 --> 01:44:04,210
crazy I know but that's what we're

2152
01:44:09,300 --> 01:44:06,040
dealing with see and I had the same

2153
01:44:12,380 --> 01:44:09,310
issue it's funny that these experiences

2154
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:12,390
are so similar that when this

2155
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:16,810
disappeared this is what I I thought

2156
01:44:21,810 --> 01:44:18,970
this is what I thought it's moving

2157
01:44:25,020 --> 01:44:21,820
slowly from east to west it's spinning

2158
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:25,030
I've got miles and miles and miles of

2159
01:44:30,090 --> 01:44:27,730
clear blue sky the direction that it's

2160
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:30,100
going in we can sit here and watch this

2161
01:44:33,790 --> 01:44:32,290
for the next five or ten minutes that's

2162
01:44:37,900 --> 01:44:33,800
what I was exact

2163
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:37,910
and it was gone you know I want to go

2164
01:44:44,470 --> 01:44:40,850
back to the to the siding with your

2165
01:44:46,210 --> 01:44:44,480
daughter and you said you were complete

2166
01:44:49,780 --> 01:44:46,220
yeah you were completely focused on that

2167
01:44:51,250 --> 01:44:49,790
how did that resolve that was a late not

2168
01:44:54,820 --> 01:44:51,260
late it was a late afternoon early

2169
01:44:56,590 --> 01:44:54,830
evening stroll with the family my

2170
01:45:02,410 --> 01:44:56,600
daughter was there our dog we had a new

2171
01:45:04,950 --> 01:45:02,420
dog and it was mid-july so it was a few

2172
01:45:07,930 --> 01:45:04,960
weeks before the annual meteor shower

2173
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:07,940
takes place in the like in August but I

2174
01:45:11,740 --> 01:45:09,530
keep thinking I wondered was it an early

2175
01:45:15,700 --> 01:45:11,750
meteor but in any case we're walking the

2176
01:45:17,620 --> 01:45:15,710
dog and and I'm just being a goofball

2177
01:45:20,110 --> 01:45:17,630
and I said hey wouldn't it be cool if we

2178
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:20,120
all looked up and saw a UFO laughs

2179
01:45:25,540 --> 01:45:23,290
laughs my daughter and I looked up and

2180
01:45:28,030 --> 01:45:25,550
sure enough this is crazy

2181
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:28,040
we saw the bright and this bright and

2182
01:45:36,910 --> 01:45:33,770
large and fast fast object zooming

2183
01:45:39,820 --> 01:45:36,920
across the sky no airplane move this

2184
01:45:41,770 --> 01:45:39,830
fast but I've ly I've seen a lot of

2185
01:45:43,780 --> 01:45:41,780
meteors and this was not as fast as a

2186
01:45:46,210 --> 01:45:43,790
meteor in my opinion at all not even

2187
01:45:47,950 --> 01:45:46,220
close so it was a very it was difficult

2188
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:47,960
and it was bright it was intense and it

2189
01:45:53,470 --> 01:45:51,170
was very level and in a clear sky and

2190
01:45:57,460 --> 01:45:53,480
moved across the sky and went into the

2191
01:46:00,580 --> 01:45:57,470
thinnest patch of cloud and never came

2192
01:46:03,820 --> 01:46:00,590
out my daughter who was 8 years old at

2193
01:46:06,970 --> 01:46:03,830
the time she's now 20 she got a little

2194
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:06,980
scared you know because it seemed very

2195
01:46:11,110 --> 01:46:09,650
unusual and I remembered trying to calm

2196
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:11,120
her down and just say no no it was

2197
01:46:14,770 --> 01:46:12,890
probably a meteorite but I didn't

2198
01:46:16,570 --> 01:46:14,780
believe it at the time and I talked with

2199
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:16,580
her about that many years later and she

2200
01:46:20,770 --> 01:46:19,370
still retained a very strong visual

2201
01:46:23,440 --> 01:46:20,780
memory of it in fact I think she saw it

2202
01:46:25,510 --> 01:46:23,450
better than I did she saw colors and I

2203
01:46:27,250 --> 01:46:25,520
just saw white and I trust her eyes

2204
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:27,260
they're much better than mine right

2205
01:46:31,150 --> 01:46:29,810
right but she had a good memory of it

2206
01:46:33,550 --> 01:46:31,160
and she never thought it was a meteorite

2207
01:46:37,990 --> 01:46:33,560
either but so there you go like in both

2208
01:46:39,460 --> 01:46:38,000
cases like for me there is what I feel

2209
01:46:41,890 --> 01:46:39,470
with it was this kind of mental

2210
01:46:44,290 --> 01:46:41,900
connection you know in the case with my

2211
01:46:45,610 --> 01:46:44,300
son I'm thinking don't turn away don't

2212
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:45,620
look away don't look away you'll never

2213
01:46:48,850 --> 01:46:46,850
see it again like why

2214
01:46:50,890 --> 01:46:48,860
I think that right it really was no

2215
01:46:51,700 --> 01:46:50,900
logic to it and then I did turn away and

2216
01:46:54,700 --> 01:46:51,710
it was gone

2217
01:46:56,530 --> 01:46:54,710
and then in case with my daughter I made

2218
01:46:59,500 --> 01:46:56,540
this joke about looking up to seeing a

2219
01:47:02,740 --> 01:46:59,510
UFO and boom there was something right

2220
01:47:04,870 --> 01:47:02,750
there and you know there been many other

2221
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:04,880
times in my life when I've made jokes

2222
01:47:08,620 --> 01:47:06,530
about looking up and seeing UFOs and

2223
01:47:11,620 --> 01:47:08,630
there was nothing there so maybe this

2224
01:47:13,540 --> 01:47:11,630
was a coincidence but still I I can't

2225
01:47:16,410 --> 01:47:13,550
shake it there's both of these incidents

2226
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:16,420
that seem to have a kind of mental

2227
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:19,610
connection what was next down the

2228
01:47:24,580 --> 01:47:23,090
checklist do you well I'm gonna ask you

2229
01:47:28,150 --> 01:47:24,590
what's next down the checklist are you

2230
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:28,160
thinking there's an intelligent being on

2231
01:47:34,180 --> 01:47:30,290
this craft with a control stick in his

2232
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:34,190
hand where did he come from where what

2233
01:47:37,780 --> 01:47:35,810
are they doing here what's next on the

2234
01:47:39,940 --> 01:47:37,790
checklist well from that's a good

2235
01:47:44,350 --> 01:47:39,950
question for me one of the things I keep

2236
01:47:48,610 --> 01:47:44,360
wondering and I don't like to go to this

2237
01:47:51,130 --> 01:47:48,620
but I can't help it is to wonder is

2238
01:47:55,090 --> 01:47:51,140
there someone out there who is dialed in

2239
01:47:56,740 --> 01:47:55,100
to me and to me personally and I and I'm

2240
01:47:57,820 --> 01:47:56,750
not the only one who's ever thought as I

2241
01:47:59,200 --> 01:47:57,830
know that I'm not the only one who's

2242
01:48:02,110 --> 01:47:59,210
ever thought this I know a lot of other

2243
01:48:04,300 --> 01:48:02,120
UFO witnesses as I've talked to so many

2244
01:48:07,380 --> 01:48:04,310
and they all say this or many of them

2245
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:07,390
say that it's as if they'll feel like I

2246
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:09,770
had this feeling like this this craft

2247
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:12,050
was connecting with me mentally I've

2248
01:48:16,090 --> 01:48:15,050
heard this many times and I don't know

2249
01:48:19,210 --> 01:48:16,100
that that happened with me but I

2250
01:48:21,190 --> 01:48:19,220
wondered and if that's the case then and

2251
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:21,200
I don't like to think it because it it

2252
01:48:24,670 --> 01:48:23,210
makes me feel like what do I think I'm

2253
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:24,680
that special that there's a craft that's

2254
01:48:31,420 --> 01:48:27,770
gonna be zoned in on me at a particular

2255
01:48:33,610 --> 01:48:31,430
time but I don't know well it sure felt

2256
01:48:36,430 --> 01:48:33,620
like it to me

2257
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:36,440
and so that's a bizarre thought to think

2258
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:40,370
that there's someone out there and they

2259
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:43,730
pick you and they say we're gonna give a

2260
01:48:47,950 --> 01:48:45,530
little show to this guy right here like

2261
01:48:51,910 --> 01:48:47,960
that's just crazy and then with what

2262
01:48:54,820 --> 01:48:51,920
technology total telepathy or is there

2263
01:48:56,350 --> 01:48:54,830
an implant or what is it you know I mean

2264
01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:56,360
I don't know I don't know the answer I

2265
01:48:58,960 --> 01:48:56,930
know these things

2266
01:48:59,880 --> 01:48:58,970
so these are some crazy things that I'm

2267
01:49:02,580 --> 01:48:59,890
still I wondered

2268
01:49:08,670 --> 01:49:02,590
I don't know if they got those thoughts

2269
01:49:10,770 --> 01:49:08,680
go anywhere we watched a video earlier

2270
01:49:12,750 --> 01:49:10,780
today that was just released james

2271
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:12,760
gilliland and a Peter Maxwell Slattery

2272
01:49:21,030 --> 01:49:16,810
put it out it's any way I make a

2273
01:49:24,060 --> 01:49:21,040
statement in this film they were

2274
01:49:25,710 --> 01:49:24,070
interviewing me after a night watch that

2275
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:25,720
we had up there and I said something

2276
01:49:31,050 --> 01:49:29,050
pretty extraordinary for me I had to

2277
01:49:34,230 --> 01:49:31,060
stop I don't remember saying this but I

2278
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:34,240
did and it was the morning after we had

2279
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:36,490
this night watch and we had a couple

2280
01:49:41,670 --> 01:49:38,770
hundred people it was about two hundred

2281
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:41,680
people out there and I said last night

2282
01:49:51,060 --> 01:49:44,530
we had I don't know and I'm quoting

2283
01:49:55,530 --> 01:49:51,070
myself 40 50 60 70 80 I went as high as

2284
01:50:00,360 --> 01:49:55,540
80 craft in the sky zigzagging around no

2285
01:50:01,740 --> 01:50:00,370
I do I said it and and that's you know

2286
01:50:08,070 --> 01:50:01,750
we were out there for two or three are

2287
01:50:09,750 --> 01:50:08,080
there uncountable okay now but you saw

2288
01:50:12,810 --> 01:50:09,760
this yo yeah oh yeah and so did

2289
01:50:15,030 --> 01:50:12,820
everybody else wasn't alone and we

2290
01:50:18,060 --> 01:50:15,040
captured almost all of it on video but

2291
01:50:20,550 --> 01:50:18,070
the point that is that you know the

2292
01:50:24,210 --> 01:50:20,560
video right different directions right

2293
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:24,220
if were to just disk and if it's

2294
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:25,210
satellites

2295
01:50:31,980 --> 01:50:28,930
well I okay so back up with that thought

2296
01:50:35,100 --> 01:50:31,990
that I just gave you right 50 60 70

2297
01:50:38,430 --> 01:50:35,110
sightings on an evening and you go over

2298
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:38,440
Washington state right on Google Earth

2299
01:50:41,700 --> 01:50:39,970
right and back up and just look at

2300
01:50:44,130 --> 01:50:41,710
Washington state and just start

2301
01:50:46,890 --> 01:50:44,140
zigzagging lines over the top of it

2302
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:46,900
that's not satellites right going in

2303
01:50:52,050 --> 01:50:48,850
different directions and change you know

2304
01:50:54,330 --> 01:50:52,060
it's simply not but now it's genuinely

2305
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:54,340
zigzaggy I think a lot of people would

2306
01:50:58,050 --> 01:50:56,290
like to see this video Jimmy I mean look

2307
01:51:00,000 --> 01:50:58,060
this here's the thing I'm not saying

2308
01:51:04,020 --> 01:51:00,010
that that's not the case but I am saying

2309
01:51:07,620 --> 01:51:04,030
there are so many times when someone

2310
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:07,630
leaves a ce-5 okay it's so often see

2311
01:51:10,830 --> 01:51:09,370
fives are like okay we're gonna go we're

2312
01:51:12,089 --> 01:51:10,840
gonna vector in the aliens and

2313
01:51:14,580 --> 01:51:12,099
everyone's in this state

2314
01:51:17,609 --> 01:51:14,590
mind to be looking for UFOs and you know

2315
01:51:21,629 --> 01:51:17,619
this is true and they'll see a satellite

2316
01:51:23,909 --> 01:51:21,639
like a satellite and the leader of that

2317
01:51:26,009 --> 01:51:23,919
whatever party will say up there's

2318
01:51:27,659 --> 01:51:26,019
another UFO and they're talking to us

2319
01:51:29,669 --> 01:51:27,669
and I cannot tell you how many times

2320
01:51:33,239 --> 01:51:29,679
have I seen this and it's just

2321
01:51:36,569 --> 01:51:33,249
completely oh yeah but that's really

2322
01:51:39,139 --> 01:51:36,579
really unintelligent to think that or

2323
01:51:42,209 --> 01:51:39,149
they're just faking it out right hold on

2324
01:51:44,699 --> 01:51:42,219
yeah you're right no that that's not

2325
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:44,709
what I'm referring to this is what I am

2326
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:47,530
saying that over the period of three out

2327
01:51:54,659 --> 01:51:49,570
when I say zigzagging I'm not talking

2328
01:51:57,060 --> 01:51:54,669
about a ship singularly I know I'm not

2329
01:52:00,299 --> 01:51:57,070
talking about a craft is zigzagging I'm

2330
01:52:02,580 --> 01:52:00,309
talking about these sightings are coming

2331
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:02,590
from different directions and crossing

2332
01:52:07,709 --> 01:52:05,530
over you know they're they're not like

2333
01:52:11,099 --> 01:52:07,719
all east to west and they're all not

2334
01:52:17,219 --> 01:52:11,109
north to south or they're all over it's

2335
01:52:20,790 --> 01:52:17,229
like different directions across the sky

2336
01:52:22,859 --> 01:52:20,800
no no that's and so now and this is back

2337
01:52:25,790 --> 01:52:22,869
to my point when I see something like

2338
01:52:29,339 --> 01:52:25,800
that and then I picture Google Earth and

2339
01:52:31,770 --> 01:52:29,349
these different flight patterns right

2340
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:31,780
that these things are correct it's not I

2341
01:52:34,949 --> 01:52:34,449
can take satellite off the list is what

2342
01:52:39,540 --> 01:52:34,959
I'm saying

2343
01:52:42,179 --> 01:52:39,550
I too have that over what why why

2344
01:52:45,449 --> 01:52:42,189
Washington is it going on all over the

2345
01:52:46,859 --> 01:52:45,459
planet well I think it is I think it's

2346
01:52:48,689 --> 01:52:46,869
interesting I've often wondered why

2347
01:52:51,750 --> 01:52:48,699
Washington why Mountain Adams in that

2348
01:52:53,429 --> 01:52:51,760
area are such heavy sighting maybe maybe

2349
01:52:57,649 --> 01:52:53,439
it's just very good visibility I don't

2350
01:53:01,109 --> 01:52:57,659
know I did a night watch years ago in

2351
01:53:04,949 --> 01:53:01,119
let's see the southwestern part of

2352
01:53:07,290 --> 01:53:04,959
Illinois so kind of rural town of Galena

2353
01:53:09,149 --> 01:53:07,300
I believe and it's really cool area's

2354
01:53:11,369 --> 01:53:09,159
many years ago and we just were lucky

2355
01:53:13,379 --> 01:53:11,379
someone had some couple of pairs of

2356
01:53:16,049 --> 01:53:13,389
really excellent night vision binoculars

2357
01:53:19,500 --> 01:53:16,059
so maybe like a dozen of us spent a

2358
01:53:21,659 --> 01:53:19,510
number of hours out sharing them you

2359
01:53:24,060 --> 01:53:21,669
know we had good visibility with the

2360
01:53:26,810 --> 01:53:24,070
night vision binoculars it was my first

2361
01:53:30,480 --> 01:53:26,820
time really having

2362
01:53:34,440 --> 01:53:30,490
viewing with them I was astonished at

2363
01:53:35,850 --> 01:53:34,450
how much we could see in the night sky I

2364
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:35,860
was actually I was blown away it was a

2365
01:53:41,180 --> 01:53:39,010
it was a shocking experience for me to

2366
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:41,190
be able to see I felt like I was

2367
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:43,330
standing underneath Grand Central

2368
01:53:49,140 --> 01:53:45,970
Station except we were in southwestern

2369
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:49,150
Illinois and you know and I just thought

2370
01:53:53,940 --> 01:53:51,850
to myself in wearing one little part of

2371
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:53,950
the earth one little part of the sky

2372
01:54:00,120 --> 01:53:56,530
right and we're seeing all of this

2373
01:54:01,740 --> 01:54:00,130
activities was unbelievable and I saw a

2374
01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:01,750
number of things that I thought could

2375
01:54:10,110 --> 01:54:08,170
well like ultra high ultra fast objects

2376
01:54:12,330 --> 01:54:10,120
like we've all seen satellites move

2377
01:54:14,190 --> 01:54:12,340
across the sky and you can you know what

2378
01:54:19,110 --> 01:54:14,200
kind of speed they go this was something

2379
01:54:21,930 --> 01:54:19,120
that was vastly pulsating fast like what

2380
01:54:26,010 --> 01:54:21,940
was that um I don't understand so I

2381
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:26,020
think that what you saw I think actually

2382
01:54:31,290 --> 01:54:27,610
there's a very significant

2383
01:54:34,170 --> 01:54:31,300
infrastructure going on around us and

2384
01:54:37,290 --> 01:54:34,180
we're just we're not seeing at most of

2385
01:54:40,140 --> 01:54:37,300
the time but it's there and I believe I

2386
01:54:42,780 --> 01:54:40,150
mean I firmly believe that there's a

2387
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:42,790
human infrastructure classified world

2388
01:54:47,310 --> 01:54:44,770
that is well aware of this

2389
01:54:49,950 --> 01:54:47,320
that's probably causing a good portion

2390
01:54:52,380 --> 01:54:49,960
of it and that's probably tracking the

2391
01:54:54,330 --> 01:54:52,390
other portion of you know and you know

2392
01:54:56,730 --> 01:54:54,340
when it when I when I enter into that

2393
01:55:00,630 --> 01:54:56,740
frame of mind which I'm very comfortable

2394
01:55:04,590 --> 01:55:00,640
with by the way then I almost get a

2395
01:55:07,710 --> 01:55:04,600
little bit angry right it I just get a

2396
01:55:10,410 --> 01:55:07,720
little bit angry that if that technology

2397
01:55:13,530 --> 01:55:10,420
is there and and it's not being shared

2398
01:55:16,500 --> 01:55:13,540
with us and we are not aware of it I'm

2399
01:55:19,340 --> 01:55:16,510
not cool with that you know and I think

2400
01:55:23,010 --> 01:55:19,350
that's a big that's as big of a story

2401
01:55:28,500 --> 01:55:23,020
right then the UFO side of things

2402
01:55:31,490 --> 01:55:28,510
or even more dangerous of a story yes

2403
01:55:34,100 --> 01:55:31,500
absolutely it could be dangerous because

2404
01:55:36,650 --> 01:55:34,110
you know we want we want the end of

2405
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:36,660
secrecy I think instinctively all of us

2406
01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:40,890
feel that an opaque and a non-responsive

2407
01:55:47,210 --> 01:55:43,490
lying government is worse than a

2408
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:47,220
transparent honest and you know good

2409
01:55:51,980 --> 01:55:49,170
government so we want we want to have

2410
01:55:56,230 --> 01:55:51,990
this discrepancy resolved but I've

2411
01:55:58,760 --> 01:55:56,240
occasionally wondered you know let's say

2412
01:56:00,950 --> 01:55:58,770
you and me and those of us listening

2413
01:56:03,470 --> 01:56:00,960
we're part of a small little group of

2414
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:03,480
people and that these were that we

2415
01:56:07,460 --> 01:56:05,610
understood the true implications of the

2416
01:56:09,260 --> 01:56:07,470
UFO phenomenon and we understood the

2417
01:56:14,780 --> 01:56:09,270
true implications of the technologies

2418
01:56:17,540 --> 01:56:14,790
that we've come to acquire as a result

2419
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:17,550
of this and we realized you could create

2420
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:20,850
some really amazing weapons out of this

2421
01:56:25,250 --> 01:56:22,530
new technology you can create some very

2422
01:56:28,010 --> 01:56:25,260
dangerous things out of it and then we

2423
01:56:30,170 --> 01:56:28,020
might ask each other how do we control

2424
01:56:31,310 --> 01:56:30,180
this to make sure that this doesn't get

2425
01:56:34,670 --> 01:56:31,320
out of control like you might trust

2426
01:56:36,530 --> 01:56:34,680
yourself with that type of energy that

2427
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:36,540
could blow up the Pacific Ocean but

2428
01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:37,890
could you trust your next-door neighbor

2429
01:56:42,500 --> 01:56:40,530
or all of your neighbors or everyone in

2430
01:56:45,590 --> 01:56:42,510
your city or everyone in your county or

2431
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:45,600
country or world like clearly we all

2432
01:56:50,300 --> 01:56:48,210
know like we all know there's going to

2433
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:50,310
be people out there who kind of mess it

2434
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:52,530
up who'll do something really bad and

2435
01:56:57,850 --> 01:56:55,290
stupid and dangerous with these

2436
01:57:01,370 --> 01:56:57,860
technologies like I could easily imagine

2437
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:01,380
secret keepers asking this very question

2438
01:57:06,830 --> 01:57:03,810
let's take a break right here Richard

2439
01:57:10,340 --> 01:57:06,840
fantastic conversation and when we come

2440
01:57:13,790 --> 01:57:10,350
back obviously it's the end of 2018

2441
01:57:16,100 --> 01:57:13,800
we're going to 2019 we've got to discuss

2442
01:57:18,740 --> 01:57:16,110
disclosure and where we are headed with

2443
01:57:22,250 --> 01:57:18,750
that but I think the direction I want to

2444
01:57:24,260 --> 01:57:22,260
go in with this is when you're not going

2445
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:24,270
to expect and we'll talk about all of

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01:57:26,300 --> 01:57:25,530
that when we come back our guest tonight

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01:57:30,260 --> 01:57:26,310
Richard Dolan

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it's our fifth 5-5 anniversary I'll be

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[Applause]

2554
02:01:52,340 --> 02:01:48,240
you wanna know a secret

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I love police I really love ponies I'm

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serious I couldn't stay sane without

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poor mr. Brooks I fade to black because

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this is fade to black

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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radio network and K GRA the global radio

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2562
02:02:33,260 --> 02:02:30,650
welcome back fade to black fifth

2563
02:02:36,410 --> 02:02:33,270
anniversary Richard Dolan our last guest

2564
02:02:38,780 --> 02:02:36,420
of the year couldn't get any better

2565
02:02:41,960 --> 02:02:38,790
conversation is exactly where it should

2566
02:02:44,780 --> 02:02:41,970
be and I want to get into disclosure now

2567
02:02:46,370 --> 02:02:44,790
Richard and and it's this I'm gonna I'm

2568
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:46,380
gonna throw this out there and I would

2569
02:02:53,660 --> 02:02:50,610
like your reaction the reason why oh one

2570
02:02:57,740 --> 02:02:53,670
of the reasons why that POTUS or anybody

2571
02:03:00,080 --> 02:02:57,750
else hasn't admitted to any knowledge of

2572
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:00,090
this and and come forward is because

2573
02:03:06,350 --> 02:03:02,730
they are not in control of it they

2574
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:06,360
understand that it is indefensible they

2575
02:03:13,310 --> 02:03:10,610
can't protect us and it is way above any

2576
02:03:17,330 --> 02:03:13,320
intelligence that they even possess and

2577
02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:17,340
they can't disclose that that's why

2578
02:03:26,450 --> 02:03:23,370
there is not disclosure yeah I pretty

2579
02:03:28,070 --> 02:03:26,460
much agree with that I guess one thing

2580
02:03:32,540 --> 02:03:28,080
that I've I think I've come to

2581
02:03:35,660 --> 02:03:32,550
understand is that you know we're

2582
02:03:38,840 --> 02:03:35,670
dealing with the secrecy system that's

2583
02:03:42,830 --> 02:03:38,850
more complex than you know things that

2584
02:03:46,250 --> 02:03:42,840
are confidential or secret or top secret

2585
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:46,260
or even special access programs like

2586
02:03:52,250 --> 02:03:49,770
from what we really have learned is that

2587
02:03:56,630 --> 02:03:52,260
the secrecy program that each one of

2588
02:04:00,140 --> 02:03:56,640
these special access programs has its

2589
02:04:02,350 --> 02:04:00,150
own classification system and has

2590
02:04:05,420 --> 02:04:02,360
classification systems often within

2591
02:04:07,520 --> 02:04:05,430
classification systems you have programs

2592
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:07,530
that are nested within programs nested

2593
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:12,570
within programs in other words when when

2594
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:15,650
we go through declassification review

2595
02:04:21,740 --> 02:04:18,930
it's it's actually can potentially very

2596
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:21,750
very difficult and very highly complex

2597
02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:24,090
because all of these special access

2598
02:04:29,780 --> 02:04:27,770
programs are unique and they require

2599
02:04:32,360 --> 02:04:29,790
like you in other words you can't just

2600
02:04:35,150 --> 02:04:32,370
declassify all everything dealing with

2601
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:35,160
UFOs and expect to get all the

2602
02:04:39,709 --> 02:04:38,010
information available like it actually

2603
02:04:41,209 --> 02:04:39,719
it's been made I've been made to

2604
02:04:44,839 --> 02:04:41,219
understand that that's not how it works

2605
02:04:46,790 --> 02:04:44,849
so even a president if the president

2606
02:04:49,370 --> 02:04:46,800
were to say dammit I'm gonna do this

2607
02:04:51,350 --> 02:04:49,380
we're gonna get this out there it's they

2608
02:04:52,100 --> 02:04:51,360
can't just make wave a magic wand and

2609
02:04:53,709 --> 02:04:52,110
make it happen

2610
02:04:57,680 --> 02:04:53,719
I don't think that's how it works

2611
02:05:01,729 --> 02:04:57,690
there's there's an immense bureaucracy

2612
02:05:04,580 --> 02:05:01,739
that has grown around this secret and it

2613
02:05:06,350 --> 02:05:04,590
has its own power its own and then the

2614
02:05:08,299 --> 02:05:06,360
other part of it of course is I think

2615
02:05:11,319 --> 02:05:08,309
there's pretty good reason to believe

2616
02:05:13,910 --> 02:05:11,329
that even as early as the 1960s

2617
02:05:17,479 --> 02:05:13,920
President Richard Nixon very well may

2618
02:05:19,580 --> 02:05:17,489
have moved ultimate control of the UFO

2619
02:05:23,089 --> 02:05:19,590
secret the let's call at the mj-12 group

2620
02:05:26,750 --> 02:05:23,099
to an international setting that is to

2621
02:05:31,299 --> 02:05:26,760
corporate international finance and

2622
02:05:33,379 --> 02:05:31,309
corporations where they would have

2623
02:05:35,810 --> 02:05:33,389
fundamental access to the secret even

2624
02:05:38,450 --> 02:05:35,820
beyond the president and and in a way

2625
02:05:41,089 --> 02:05:38,460
that's not classified but proprietary

2626
02:05:41,959 --> 02:05:41,099
and keeps it off the books too as well

2627
02:05:43,459 --> 02:05:41,969
that would keep it off the books

2628
02:05:45,890 --> 02:05:43,469
actually it keeps it impervious to

2629
02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:45,900
public inquiry Freedom of Information

2630
02:05:49,700 --> 02:05:48,210
Act I think this is what happened right

2631
02:05:51,379 --> 02:05:49,710
you know there's a couple of reasons why

2632
02:05:52,879 --> 02:05:51,389
you might think that well there's just

2633
02:05:55,220 --> 02:05:52,889
basically they'll been a couple of leaks

2634
02:05:57,109 --> 02:05:55,230
one is the the controversial but I think

2635
02:05:59,060 --> 02:05:57,119
still interesting majestic documents

2636
02:06:01,339 --> 02:05:59,070
frankly that Ryan would and his father

2637
02:06:04,879 --> 02:06:01,349
Bob would have have talked about for

2638
02:06:06,680 --> 02:06:04,889
many years and I I don't dismiss those

2639
02:06:09,140 --> 02:06:06,690
documents I know some people do but I I

2640
02:06:11,569 --> 02:06:09,150
don't and then an others has just been

2641
02:06:15,069 --> 02:06:11,579
the the claim that came from Kelly

2642
02:06:17,870 --> 02:06:15,079
Johnson to Ben rich which was discussed

2643
02:06:19,910 --> 02:06:17,880
many many years ago that Kelly Johnson

2644
02:06:22,339 --> 02:06:19,920
said this to Ben rich these are you know

2645
02:06:25,250 --> 02:06:22,349
the two people who led Lockheed's skunk

2646
02:06:29,029 --> 02:06:25,260
works that in other words Nixon passed

2647
02:06:32,240 --> 02:06:29,039
off control of the UFO secret to an

2648
02:06:34,069 --> 02:06:32,250
international call it an international

2649
02:06:36,950 --> 02:06:34,079
cabal I suppose but anyway for these

2650
02:06:39,859 --> 02:06:36,960
reasons and then there's a certain logic

2651
02:06:42,140 --> 02:06:39,869
as well independent of any of these

2652
02:06:45,979 --> 02:06:42,150
speculations that would support what

2653
02:06:49,399 --> 02:06:45,989
you're saying that in other words we

2654
02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:49,409
know for example when we look at the

2655
02:06:51,799 --> 02:06:51,570
office of the US presidency I mean I've

2656
02:06:53,989 --> 02:06:51,809
been

2657
02:06:55,489 --> 02:06:53,999
saying this for years and years I've

2658
02:06:57,229 --> 02:06:55,499
been saying this at least since the

2659
02:06:59,779 --> 02:06:57,239
Clintons and probably even before then

2660
02:07:02,929 --> 02:06:59,789
that presidents aren't elected they're

2661
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:02,939
selected and they're there is a huge

2662
02:07:10,219 --> 02:07:08,010
process behind the scenes in which there

2663
02:07:11,929 --> 02:07:10,229
is absolutely a this thing called a deep

2664
02:07:15,739 --> 02:07:11,939
state or I've often called a national

2665
02:07:21,439 --> 02:07:15,749
security state that is behind the power

2666
02:07:23,750 --> 02:07:21,449
and and so you know I don't agree with

2667
02:07:25,399 --> 02:07:23,760
some researchers say yeah the president

2668
02:07:26,929 --> 02:07:25,409
can just do anything he wants the

2669
02:07:29,270 --> 02:07:26,939
president issues an executive order I

2670
02:07:32,529 --> 02:07:29,280
don't think it works quite that well and

2671
02:07:36,259 --> 02:07:32,539
and we can see that in terms of ordinary

2672
02:07:38,359 --> 02:07:36,269
geopolitics ordinary international

2673
02:07:41,270 --> 02:07:38,369
economic policy and strategy the

2674
02:07:44,419 --> 02:07:41,280
president's generally speaking with a

2675
02:07:47,559 --> 02:07:44,429
few exceptions are working explicitly

2676
02:07:51,979 --> 02:07:47,569
for international banking and finance

2677
02:07:54,079 --> 02:07:51,989
and that said they're they're clearly

2678
02:07:56,479 --> 02:07:54,089
they're not in control now there's they

2679
02:08:00,770 --> 02:07:56,489
come and go they they come and go the

2680
02:08:04,459 --> 02:08:00,780
agenda when you think about the career

2681
02:08:06,889 --> 02:08:04,469
military and intelligence and banking

2682
02:08:10,669 --> 02:08:06,899
systems and corporations those are

2683
02:08:13,849 --> 02:08:10,679
careers they last right there their

2684
02:08:16,790 --> 02:08:13,859
agenda what they want to do continues

2685
02:08:18,739 --> 02:08:16,800
after president leaves office and it's

2686
02:08:20,659 --> 02:08:18,749
there when they go in it's going to be

2687
02:08:22,759 --> 02:08:20,669
there when they go out and that was set

2688
02:08:27,199 --> 02:08:22,769
this was said to me by a very very

2689
02:08:29,419 --> 02:08:27,209
astute retired analyst of the CIA and he

2690
02:08:32,270 --> 02:08:29,429
said to me I I asked him many years ago

2691
02:08:33,439 --> 02:08:32,280
how much do presidents know the classic

2692
02:08:35,209 --> 02:08:33,449
question like we all want to know this

2693
02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:35,219
right any and he said some have known

2694
02:08:37,729 --> 02:08:37,050
more than others he said presidents come

2695
02:08:40,009 --> 02:08:37,739
and go

2696
02:08:43,849 --> 02:08:40,019
the careerists they're there forever

2697
02:08:46,069 --> 02:08:43,859
that's it it's a harsh reality you know

2698
02:08:48,079 --> 02:08:46,079
when you absorb that and you understand

2699
02:08:50,659 --> 02:08:48,089
that and then things become a lot more

2700
02:08:54,259 --> 02:08:50,669
clear I want to get to this question

2701
02:08:56,359 --> 02:08:54,269
Eric it's a question of a question Eric

2702
02:08:58,959 --> 02:08:56,369
posted this up on Twitter he says it's a

2703
02:09:02,299 --> 02:08:58,969
question for both you and I Richard if

2704
02:09:04,180 --> 02:09:02,309
the two of us had the opportunity to ask

2705
02:09:06,580 --> 02:09:04,190
someone who

2706
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:06,590
you were convinced had the answers in

2707
02:09:12,640 --> 02:09:09,770
regard to the aliens and UFOs what

2708
02:09:14,260 --> 02:09:12,650
question or questions would you ask them

2709
02:09:17,140 --> 02:09:14,270
I'm gonna throw that out to you first

2710
02:09:21,750 --> 02:09:17,150
you have the opportunity right to get

2711
02:09:28,240 --> 02:09:25,479
are they infiltrating our society and if

2712
02:09:30,340 --> 02:09:28,250
so how can we identify them that's where

2713
02:09:32,620 --> 02:09:30,350
you would go well I think that I think

2714
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:32,630
that's one thing I think there's reason

2715
02:09:36,850 --> 02:09:34,010
to think that that's the case right

2716
02:09:38,650 --> 02:09:36,860
right that's good that's good yeah I'd

2717
02:09:40,689 --> 02:09:38,660
want to know like I'd want to know from

2718
02:09:42,910 --> 02:09:40,699
a counterintelligence point of view

2719
02:09:44,590 --> 02:09:42,920
basically like are they here or do they

2720
02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:44,600
look like us at least as some of them

2721
02:09:50,380 --> 02:09:47,930
look like us are they infiltrating and I

2722
02:09:52,780 --> 02:09:50,390
don't know do you want to know the

2723
02:09:56,100 --> 02:09:52,790
answer to that I do I do want

2724
02:09:58,540 --> 02:09:56,110
wow wow that would make you crash

2725
02:10:01,510 --> 02:09:58,550
screwing with us Jimmy you want to know

2726
02:10:02,860 --> 02:10:01,520
right right is it if it's like it's I've

2727
02:10:04,870 --> 02:10:02,870
often likened it to having a really

2728
02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:04,880
awesome dream you're on the beach you're

2729
02:10:08,110 --> 02:10:06,050
sipping margaritas

2730
02:10:11,350 --> 02:10:08,120
it's the sun shining it feels great but

2731
02:10:12,580 --> 02:10:11,360
in reality your house is on fire and so

2732
02:10:13,959 --> 02:10:12,590
do you want to just keep having a nice

2733
02:10:15,430 --> 02:10:13,969
little game or do you want to wake up

2734
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:15,440
and deal with the fire I'd rather wake

2735
02:10:23,170 --> 02:10:17,770
up and deal with the fire

2736
02:10:24,729 --> 02:10:23,180
how extensive how bad is it and I'd have

2737
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:24,739
a million questions to follow up but it

2738
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:27,050
would all be pragmatic practical

2739
02:10:33,040 --> 02:10:29,810
questions about our infrastructure and

2740
02:10:34,689 --> 02:10:33,050
and and their infrastructure I'd want to

2741
02:10:36,430 --> 02:10:34,699
know every single thing about their

2742
02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:36,440
infrastructure their society their

2743
02:10:41,530 --> 02:10:39,650
psychology what they're about yeah I

2744
02:10:47,860 --> 02:10:41,540
think I'd want to stay neo in the matrix

2745
02:10:51,550 --> 02:10:47,870
man I think I'd wanna stay the red meat

2746
02:10:54,970 --> 02:10:51,560
but you know my question would be a

2747
02:10:58,479 --> 02:10:54,980
little more fundamental and basic but it

2748
02:11:01,360 --> 02:10:58,489
would be this do you are you in the

2749
02:11:03,910 --> 02:11:01,370
possession of alien technology do you

2750
02:11:06,820 --> 02:11:03,920
have a crash craft have you been given a

2751
02:11:09,340 --> 02:11:06,830
craft are you in possession of a lost

2752
02:11:13,540 --> 02:11:09,350
world technology I already got that

2753
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:13,550
answer from someone in the know the

2754
02:11:17,770 --> 02:11:16,010
question of someone almost 15 years ago

2755
02:11:19,779 --> 02:11:17,780
and I was quite satisfied

2756
02:11:22,990 --> 02:11:19,789
that he was a in a position to know and

2757
02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:23,000
be he was not not biessing me and he

2758
02:11:30,250 --> 02:11:27,050
said yes okay who what who was it is he

2759
02:11:33,729 --> 02:11:30,260
still alive yep he's alive very well

2760
02:11:37,870 --> 02:11:33,739
then well I don't well nobody well in

2761
02:11:40,859 --> 02:11:37,880
enough brilliant well connected one day

2762
02:11:43,450 --> 02:11:40,869
one day I will mention it but I can't

2763
02:11:47,919 --> 02:11:43,460
but I will just say this is someone who

2764
02:11:51,459 --> 02:11:47,929
had a very very good position and I was

2765
02:11:54,069 --> 02:11:51,469
able to get an audience I had enough

2766
02:11:56,500 --> 02:11:54,079
time alone we actually bonded we had a

2767
02:11:58,930 --> 02:11:56,510
lot that we connected on and I'm

2768
02:12:02,439 --> 02:11:58,940
choosing to believe him and he said to

2769
02:12:07,029 --> 02:12:02,449
me this is years ago well I'll tell you

2770
02:12:08,589 --> 02:12:07,039
what I asked first I I asked him I said

2771
02:12:09,939 --> 02:12:08,599
I don't want to know your opinion at the

2772
02:12:11,620 --> 02:12:09,949
moment I'm not interested in your

2773
02:12:13,299 --> 02:12:11,630
opinion everyone's got an opinion what I

2774
02:12:16,750 --> 02:12:13,309
want to know is it have you in a

2775
02:12:18,370 --> 02:12:16,760
professional capacity ever had reason to

2776
02:12:21,669 --> 02:12:18,380
believe you of those aren't real and

2777
02:12:24,040 --> 02:12:21,679
aurélien so that was my my initial kind

2778
02:12:26,890 --> 02:12:24,050
of open and opening up the the

2779
02:12:28,390 --> 02:12:26,900
conversation question and he said I'll

2780
02:12:29,520 --> 02:12:28,400
go a little bit further than that and I

2781
02:12:32,950 --> 02:12:29,530
will tell you what I've known

2782
02:12:37,120 --> 02:12:32,960
scientifically for a certain number of

2783
02:12:40,270 --> 02:12:37,130
years he said that I know he said that a

2784
02:12:42,700 --> 02:12:40,280
deep deep deeply classified levels we

2785
02:12:44,379 --> 02:12:42,710
have scientists who have in their

2786
02:12:46,510 --> 02:12:44,389
possession and this is where he

2787
02:12:48,669 --> 02:12:46,520
practically whispered we were alone in a

2788
02:12:50,589 --> 02:12:48,679
room he whispered anyway he said alien

2789
02:12:54,250 --> 02:12:50,599
technology and at least one body that I

2790
02:12:57,790 --> 02:12:54,260
personally know about and the thing is

2791
02:12:58,930 --> 02:12:57,800
like we all assumed that those of us

2792
02:13:01,359 --> 02:12:58,940
who've studied this we think that that's

2793
02:13:05,680 --> 02:13:01,369
true but when you hear someone tell you

2794
02:13:09,279 --> 02:13:05,690
who has got something to lose in telling

2795
02:13:11,830 --> 02:13:09,289
you and who really does have a genuine

2796
02:13:15,129 --> 02:13:11,840
bona fide history in the scientific and

2797
02:13:17,609 --> 02:13:15,139
classified world then then that means

2798
02:13:21,220 --> 02:13:17,619
something and I remember taking a breath

2799
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:21,230
at that time and my next question was

2800
02:13:25,899 --> 02:13:24,530
what did the beat bodies look like what

2801
02:13:27,819 --> 02:13:25,909
did the body look like cuz he said it

2802
02:13:29,500 --> 02:13:27,829
was one and his answer was really

2803
02:13:31,720 --> 02:13:29,510
instructive it was interesting he said

2804
02:13:34,170 --> 02:13:31,730
ah I didn't tell you I

2805
02:13:37,600 --> 02:13:34,180
personally saw the body and his exact

2806
02:13:39,790 --> 02:13:37,610
exact words were the data became known

2807
02:13:41,560 --> 02:13:39,800
to me in such a manner and with such

2808
02:13:46,020 --> 02:13:41,570
individuals present that it was

2809
02:13:49,870 --> 02:13:46,030
incontrovertible so you've never

2810
02:13:52,780 --> 02:13:49,880
revealed his name or identity before

2811
02:13:56,500 --> 02:13:52,790
Yeah right I've told this story before

2812
02:13:59,290 --> 02:13:56,510
and I I will not give up his identity

2813
02:14:06,250 --> 02:13:59,300
without his permission okay okay but I

2814
02:14:11,020 --> 02:14:06,260
still get three questions professional

2815
02:14:12,640 --> 02:14:11,030
educator well I don't I don't want to

2816
02:14:14,080 --> 02:14:12,650
answer any of those because I don't want

2817
02:14:15,150 --> 02:14:14,090
to I don't give this this person up as a

2818
02:14:18,820 --> 02:14:15,160
man okay

2819
02:14:24,040 --> 02:14:18,830
no what I'm trying to Zone into here was

2820
02:14:26,560 --> 02:14:24,050
he you know from you know the education

2821
02:14:31,270 --> 02:14:26,570
side or was he a professional scientist

2822
02:14:37,450 --> 02:14:31,280
or was he you know with the Pentagon or

2823
02:14:39,040 --> 02:14:37,460
defense right

2824
02:14:41,740 --> 02:14:39,050
I knew that see I knew that's where you

2825
02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:41,750
were going everything right okay

2826
02:14:48,970 --> 02:14:44,330
somewhat you who's very well connected

2827
02:14:51,070 --> 02:14:48,980
and but but like maybe not perfectly

2828
02:14:55,510 --> 02:14:51,080
connected maybe like just pretty well

2829
02:14:59,229 --> 02:14:55,520
connected with and when it comes to this

2830
02:15:02,860 --> 02:14:59,239
well enough connected when when I hear

2831
02:15:08,229 --> 02:15:02,870
the stuff like that Richard this is this

2832
02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:08,239
is my reaction yeah why wouldn't anybody

2833
02:15:12,280 --> 02:15:11,930
out there that says these kinds of

2834
02:15:17,740 --> 02:15:12,290
things

2835
02:15:19,930 --> 02:15:17,750
why don't they become a martyr you can

2836
02:15:23,320 --> 02:15:19,940
kind of give an insight into that for at

2837
02:15:27,430 --> 02:15:23,330
least from this person's perspective one

2838
02:15:31,120 --> 02:15:27,440
other thing he said to me was well one

2839
02:15:35,290 --> 02:15:31,130
thing that became clear to me is like by

2840
02:15:37,750 --> 02:15:35,300
giving by going public all right they

2841
02:15:39,490 --> 02:15:37,760
that he would lose access to what

2842
02:15:41,590 --> 02:15:39,500
information he doesn't like in other

2843
02:15:43,870 --> 02:15:41,600
words a lot of these people know enough

2844
02:15:45,220 --> 02:15:43,880
to know that it's real and to know a few

2845
02:15:45,640 --> 02:15:45,230
things but they don't have all the data

2846
02:15:49,330 --> 02:15:45,650
they want

2847
02:15:51,280 --> 02:15:49,340
like everyone wants more access

2848
02:15:54,400 --> 02:15:51,290
everyone's trying to get another door

2849
02:15:56,800 --> 02:15:54,410
open for themselves and the thing is if

2850
02:15:59,350 --> 02:15:56,810
you give up the information it gets

2851
02:16:04,000 --> 02:15:59,360
traced back to you then you're out right

2852
02:16:08,200 --> 02:16:04,010
but you're you're now at that point you

2853
02:16:10,570 --> 02:16:08,210
are the most important person in the

2854
02:16:13,570 --> 02:16:10,580
history of mankind in that you are now

2855
02:16:15,730 --> 02:16:13,580
immortalized you will be able if you're

2856
02:16:17,470 --> 02:16:15,740
able to prove it yeah yeah I mean the

2857
02:16:19,480 --> 02:16:17,480
thing is there been a number of you know

2858
02:16:21,040 --> 02:16:19,490
people over the years who've made

2859
02:16:23,350 --> 02:16:21,050
various claims I agree with you I think

2860
02:16:27,730 --> 02:16:23,360
that it would be the right thing to do

2861
02:16:30,570 --> 02:16:27,740
if your people Richard Richard if you

2862
02:16:34,570 --> 02:16:30,580
were in possession you had the video

2863
02:16:37,780 --> 02:16:34,580
right you had the document you had you

2864
02:16:40,840 --> 02:16:37,790
had a uniform right from et whatever it

2865
02:16:43,210 --> 02:16:40,850
you know whatever it is do you go public

2866
02:16:45,130 --> 02:16:43,220
with it yeah I would you'd have to be

2867
02:16:46,990 --> 02:16:45,140
really careful about how you do it

2868
02:16:49,300 --> 02:16:47,000
that's the thing why but we're in it

2869
02:16:52,990 --> 02:16:49,310
because we're in an era where everything

2870
02:16:55,980 --> 02:16:53,000
is debunked so it's all about protocol

2871
02:16:59,081 --> 02:16:55,990
it's all about like provenance and

2872
02:17:01,121 --> 02:16:59,091
protocol but you have to prove it but

2873
02:17:02,110 --> 02:17:01,131
you have all of that in place it's all

2874
02:17:05,380 --> 02:17:02,120
in place

2875
02:17:09,880 --> 02:17:05,390
not hesitate you know you got a video

2876
02:17:12,581 --> 02:17:09,890
you got a video of Obama taking a walk

2877
02:17:15,520 --> 02:17:12,591
through of a flying saucer at area 51

2878
02:17:18,490 --> 02:17:15,530
right you've got it you've got you've

2879
02:17:21,791 --> 02:17:18,500
got the real deal stuff you've got it do

2880
02:17:23,470 --> 02:17:21,801
you go public with it yes of course you

2881
02:17:26,410 --> 02:17:23,480
do you have to go public but you've

2882
02:17:28,660 --> 02:17:26,420
before you go public you've got to take

2883
02:17:31,690 --> 02:17:28,670
the right steps to do everything

2884
02:17:33,460 --> 02:17:31,700
possible to cya and to make sure that

2885
02:17:35,410 --> 02:17:33,470
you've got everything lined up and all

2886
02:17:39,070 --> 02:17:35,420
of your information is bulletproof

2887
02:17:44,110 --> 02:17:39,080
you do your best have you seen have you

2888
02:17:49,180 --> 02:17:44,120
seen whether it's a document or or

2889
02:17:52,360 --> 02:17:49,190
anything else or a video that is in

2890
02:17:56,540 --> 02:17:52,370
public I mean has somebody showed you

2891
02:18:01,280 --> 02:17:59,309
one time a number of years ago I had one

2892
02:18:03,360 --> 02:18:01,290
of those classic look but don't touch

2893
02:18:04,950 --> 02:18:03,370
meetings where you know you get shown

2894
02:18:06,360 --> 02:18:04,960
something you're not allowed to

2895
02:18:12,509 --> 02:18:06,370
photograph it you know I love to record

2896
02:18:15,750 --> 02:18:12,519
it and so I was able to see a transcript

2897
02:18:17,280 --> 02:18:15,760
of an interview and in fact I have

2898
02:18:20,969 --> 02:18:17,290
talked about this so I don't mind

2899
02:18:22,439 --> 02:18:20,979
mentioning again it says shortly before

2900
02:18:24,030 --> 02:18:22,449
Steven Greer came out with his book

2901
02:18:25,110 --> 02:18:24,040
hidden truth forbidden knowledge in

2902
02:18:27,959 --> 02:18:25,120
which he talked a little bit about

2903
02:18:30,570 --> 02:18:27,969
Admiral Thomas R Wilson and Admiral

2904
02:18:32,370 --> 02:18:30,580
Thomas R Wilson was head of intelligence

2905
02:18:34,830 --> 02:18:32,380
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff back in the

2906
02:18:37,889 --> 02:18:34,840
late 1990s so during the Clinton

2907
02:18:39,479 --> 02:18:37,899
presidency his position within a Joint

2908
02:18:43,500 --> 02:18:39,489
Chiefs as head of intelligence was known

2909
02:18:44,969 --> 02:18:43,510
as j2 I learned this but doesn't make me

2910
02:18:48,780 --> 02:18:44,979
an expert on the Joint Chiefs anyway

2911
02:18:50,540 --> 02:18:48,790
Wilson was there and this has to do with

2912
02:18:52,979 --> 02:18:50,550
actually with Greer's

2913
02:18:55,490 --> 02:18:52,989
meeting Greer for a little while was

2914
02:18:59,189 --> 02:18:55,500
connected with Edgar Mitchell astronaut

2915
02:19:02,549 --> 02:18:59,199
in the late 90s wanting to get

2916
02:19:04,139 --> 02:19:02,559
congressional interest in you know his

2917
02:19:06,269 --> 02:19:04,149
project and looking into deep black

2918
02:19:07,919 --> 02:19:06,279
programs connected with the UFOs they

2919
02:19:09,959 --> 02:19:07,929
were able to get a meeting with Wilson

2920
02:19:12,809 --> 02:19:09,969
this is an amazing thing

2921
02:19:13,830 --> 02:19:12,819
so Greer and and Edgar Mitchell go in

2922
02:19:16,139 --> 02:19:13,840
and they meet with Wilson

2923
02:19:18,450 --> 02:19:16,149
Greer wrote about this later but this is

2924
02:19:20,849 --> 02:19:18,460
before Gore's book came out that I

2925
02:19:23,969 --> 02:19:20,859
learned about the meeting and what I

2926
02:19:27,110 --> 02:19:23,979
learned was that they said to Wilson

2927
02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:27,120
look there are deep black programs

2928
02:19:32,370 --> 02:19:30,010
within nested within the Pentagon that

2929
02:19:33,870 --> 02:19:32,380
appear to be rogue that are beyond the

2930
02:19:35,219 --> 02:19:33,880
control of the United States government

2931
02:19:37,229 --> 02:19:35,229
and we're telling you about it hoping

2932
02:19:38,820 --> 02:19:37,239
that you can learn about them and get

2933
02:19:40,769 --> 02:19:38,830
some control over them in the name of

2934
02:19:42,389 --> 02:19:40,779
the government and the people of the

2935
02:19:46,979 --> 02:19:42,399
United States that type of thing and

2936
02:19:50,490 --> 02:19:46,989
what I was shown was a transcript

2937
02:19:54,630 --> 02:19:50,500
prepared by I don't know who that was an

2938
02:19:58,380 --> 02:19:54,640
interview with Wilson after the fact in

2939
02:20:02,429 --> 02:19:58,390
which he was talking about how he was

2940
02:20:04,349 --> 02:20:02,439
upset because after that meeting ended

2941
02:20:06,599 --> 02:20:04,359
he went knocking on some doors and

2942
02:20:08,099 --> 02:20:06,609
eventually found that there was a deep

2943
02:20:10,920 --> 02:20:08,109
black

2944
02:20:13,229 --> 02:20:10,930
- to do this and that he was denied

2945
02:20:14,460 --> 02:20:13,239
access to it despite the fact that he

2946
02:20:16,489 --> 02:20:14,470
was head of intelligence for the Joint

2947
02:20:18,929 --> 02:20:16,499
Chiefs of Staff that's interesting and

2948
02:20:22,859 --> 02:20:18,939
the only reason he was able to get an

2949
02:20:25,410 --> 02:20:22,869
interview at all was because the the

2950
02:20:26,609 --> 02:20:25,420
lawyers of the program they're the only

2951
02:20:28,559 --> 02:20:26,619
ones who met him they didn't meet with

2952
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:28,569
any military people they met with him

2953
02:20:30,540 --> 02:20:30,010
they said how did you learn about this

2954
02:20:32,279 --> 02:20:30,550
program

2955
02:20:34,380 --> 02:20:32,289
that's the only reason he got an

2956
02:20:38,370 --> 02:20:34,390
audience with anyone they wanted to know

2957
02:20:40,739 --> 02:20:38,380
how the leak occurred and the quote that

2958
02:20:43,080 --> 02:20:40,749
I remembered him reading that I excuse

2959
02:20:45,330 --> 02:20:43,090
me that I remember reading by him was

2960
02:20:47,429 --> 02:20:45,340
his knowledge that the technology he

2961
02:20:50,670 --> 02:20:47,439
learned about was quote not made by

2962
02:20:53,700 --> 02:20:50,680
human hands so I read this I saw this

2963
02:20:55,769 --> 02:20:53,710
document right I was shown this document

2964
02:21:00,989 --> 02:20:55,779
I should say not allowed to photograph

2965
02:21:04,739 --> 02:21:00,999
it not allowed to record it now I am

2966
02:21:08,040 --> 02:21:04,749
well aware that this is a technique it's

2967
02:21:10,319 --> 02:21:08,050
been used in the past it can be used to

2968
02:21:12,929 --> 02:21:10,329
provide genuine information that's just

2969
02:21:15,689 --> 02:21:12,939
because people want to nya bility or it

2970
02:21:18,929 --> 02:21:15,699
can also be used as a form of deception

2971
02:21:21,689 --> 02:21:18,939
you know it's it's not wouldn't be the

2972
02:21:25,620 --> 02:21:21,699
first time mm-hmm so I I keep this in

2973
02:21:29,540 --> 02:21:25,630
mind but I will say this not long after

2974
02:21:31,889 --> 02:21:29,550
I had that meeting and saw that document

2975
02:21:34,500 --> 02:21:31,899
within a few months anyway Steven

2976
02:21:37,500 --> 02:21:34,510
Greer's book came out and he wrote quite

2977
02:21:40,080 --> 02:21:37,510
a bit about this now he didn't have all

2978
02:21:43,260 --> 02:21:40,090
the information that I was given but he

2979
02:21:44,939 --> 02:21:43,270
had you know it seemed to me a fairly

2980
02:21:50,189 --> 02:21:44,949
accurate perspective of that meeting

2981
02:21:51,750 --> 02:21:50,199
from his point of view and oh yeah the

2982
02:21:54,300 --> 02:21:51,760
other thing I should say is that when I

2983
02:21:57,120 --> 02:21:54,310
read that document I didn't know that it

2984
02:21:59,639 --> 02:21:57,130
was Admiral Thomas R Wilson I wasn't

2985
02:22:02,010 --> 02:21:59,649
given the name I wasn't given the name

2986
02:22:04,559 --> 02:22:02,020
and so when Greer's book came out and I

2987
02:22:07,050 --> 02:22:04,569
read that I contacted my source on that

2988
02:22:09,420 --> 02:22:07,060
and I said so are we talking Wilson and

2989
02:22:11,790 --> 02:22:09,430
I sort of said yes that's who it is and

2990
02:22:14,849 --> 02:22:11,800
then I actually went out of my way and I

2991
02:22:16,859 --> 02:22:14,859
found Thomas Wilson I the only time in

2992
02:22:19,139 --> 02:22:16,869
my life that I did an ambush interview

2993
02:22:21,090 --> 02:22:19,149
on anyone I felt kind of bad about it

2994
02:22:23,899 --> 02:22:21,100
you know but not really that

2995
02:22:26,099 --> 02:22:23,909
and Wilson was working for an advanced

2996
02:22:27,960 --> 02:22:26,109
aerospace company I cannot remember the

2997
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:27,970
name of it but you know after you leave

2998
02:22:33,659 --> 02:22:30,010
the military you get you get roped you

2999
02:22:35,550 --> 02:22:33,669
get brought in senior VP for all the

3000
02:22:37,109 --> 02:22:35,560
weaponry and technology for the

3001
02:22:40,500 --> 02:22:37,119
breakaway civilization and that's really

3002
02:22:42,300 --> 02:22:40,510
what he was doing and I contacted him I

3003
02:22:45,449 --> 02:22:42,310
was able to find him and I pretended

3004
02:22:49,649 --> 02:22:45,459
that I was just a regular conventional

3005
02:22:50,969 --> 02:22:49,659
historian of the US Navy and that I'd

3006
02:22:53,579 --> 02:22:50,979
learned about his career and I wanted to

3007
02:22:57,179 --> 02:22:53,589
talk to him and he was he allowed me to

3008
02:23:00,569 --> 02:22:57,189
call him and shortly into the phone call

3009
02:23:01,800 --> 02:23:00,579
I am I had to say look this I'm really

3010
02:23:03,869 --> 02:23:01,810
calling because I'm a historian of the

3011
02:23:06,059 --> 02:23:03,879
UFO phenomenon and your name came up in

3012
02:23:09,750 --> 02:23:06,069
a conversation and that got his

3013
02:23:11,550 --> 02:23:09,760
attention I told him essentially about

3014
02:23:14,159 --> 02:23:11,560
the story the whole meeting with career

3015
02:23:16,559 --> 02:23:14,169
and and Edgar Mitchell he was really

3016
02:23:20,010 --> 02:23:16,569
funny because he he'd gone from this

3017
02:23:21,300 --> 02:23:20,020
genial like relaxing in his big chair

3018
02:23:23,849 --> 02:23:21,310
saying yeah let's have a nice long

3019
02:23:26,250 --> 02:23:23,859
conversation to an ultra high-pitched

3020
02:23:28,649 --> 02:23:26,260
voice and he was very angry and kept

3021
02:23:33,119 --> 02:23:28,659
saying my memory is foggy my memory is

3022
02:23:35,729 --> 02:23:33,129
foggy and then said all of that was

3023
02:23:38,219 --> 02:23:35,739
poppycock he said yes I did meet with

3024
02:23:40,500 --> 02:23:38,229
them but everything else is poppin

3025
02:23:42,389 --> 02:23:40,510
poppycock what's his word so I knew I

3026
02:23:45,149 --> 02:23:42,399
got to him and then he hung up he just

3027
02:23:48,739 --> 02:23:45,159
ended abruptly the conversation so I

3028
02:23:51,689 --> 02:23:48,749
feel like that document that I was shown

3029
02:23:54,380 --> 02:23:51,699
I climbed to believe it I think it was

3030
02:23:58,139 --> 02:23:54,390
probably true I think it got to Wilson

3031
02:24:03,029 --> 02:23:58,149
what what I think I got to Wilson what

3032
02:24:04,649 --> 02:24:03,039
I'm most disappointed about well there's

3033
02:24:06,300 --> 02:24:04,659
a lot of things but one of the things

3034
02:24:10,710 --> 02:24:06,310
I'm most disappointed about is that

3035
02:24:15,260 --> 02:24:10,720
there are many individuals out there

3036
02:24:20,250 --> 02:24:15,270
that claim to be in a possession of

3037
02:24:23,819 --> 02:24:20,260
videotape or images or or documents but

3038
02:24:26,969 --> 02:24:23,829
they can't reveal them because of the

3039
02:24:28,949 --> 02:24:26,979
people that they are tied to and you

3040
02:24:30,869 --> 02:24:28,959
know this this material or whatever it

3041
02:24:32,410 --> 02:24:30,879
can't can't be brought out right now I

3042
02:24:36,040 --> 02:24:32,420
have to sit on

3043
02:24:39,790 --> 02:24:36,050
when I hear that I back up and and I

3044
02:24:41,590 --> 02:24:39,800
don't I don't any longer believe that

3045
02:24:43,660 --> 02:24:41,600
they are in possession of this stuff

3046
02:24:44,980 --> 02:24:43,670
that's what I believe a lot of times I

3047
02:24:46,420 --> 02:24:44,990
would agree with you I think that's

3048
02:24:47,770 --> 02:24:46,430
often the case I mean there's a lot of

3049
02:24:50,800 --> 02:24:47,780
people just blowing a lot of hot air

3050
02:24:53,140 --> 02:24:50,810
they've been doing it for decades inside

3051
02:24:55,179 --> 02:24:53,150
sources tell me this and that and I'm

3052
02:24:57,490 --> 02:24:55,189
like stop I know more with your inside

3053
02:24:59,290 --> 02:24:57,500
sources now I just told you someone of

3054
02:25:01,330 --> 02:24:59,300
my inside sources so Who am I to say

3055
02:25:03,429 --> 02:25:01,340
anything but the thing is I try not to

3056
02:25:06,910 --> 02:25:03,439
go overboard with that like most of what

3057
02:25:08,170 --> 02:25:06,920
I do is very much above board but every

3058
02:25:09,550 --> 02:25:08,180
now and then something will come to me

3059
02:25:11,679 --> 02:25:09,560
too and and

3060
02:25:15,219 --> 02:25:11,689
you know I mentioned because you asked

3061
02:25:16,900 --> 02:25:15,229
but but I also have a lot of sympathy

3062
02:25:20,590 --> 02:25:16,910
for people who are genuinely on the

3063
02:25:22,960 --> 02:25:20,600
inside and it's not easy you know

3064
02:25:25,300 --> 02:25:22,970
they're these people many of them do

3065
02:25:28,090 --> 02:25:25,310
take oaths and it's difficult for them

3066
02:25:30,010 --> 02:25:28,100
to break it and and not only that one of

3067
02:25:32,860 --> 02:25:30,020
the things is this particular scientist

3068
02:25:34,870 --> 02:25:32,870
that I was mentioning said to me it was

3069
02:25:39,010 --> 02:25:34,880
very telling he said look let's say I

3070
02:25:41,350 --> 02:25:39,020
could tell you I could give you a list

3071
02:25:43,750 --> 02:25:41,360
of the top 12 people who know everything

3072
02:25:45,730 --> 02:25:43,760
about this like a kind of an mj-12 list

3073
02:25:49,330 --> 02:25:45,740
all right let's say I've got that list I

3074
02:25:52,810 --> 02:25:49,340
give this to you or or I myself go to

3075
02:25:55,450 --> 02:25:52,820
the New York Times and let's say the New

3076
02:25:57,070 --> 02:25:55,460
York Times publish it and I'm even back

3077
02:25:57,969 --> 02:25:57,080
then I'm laughing myself like yeah the

3078
02:26:00,670 --> 02:25:57,979
New York Times would never do that

3079
02:26:02,050 --> 02:26:00,680
they're totally in the pocket of the CIA

3080
02:26:03,580 --> 02:26:02,060
and the national security state but

3081
02:26:06,969 --> 02:26:03,590
anyway go on so let's say the New York

3082
02:26:11,010 --> 02:26:06,979
Times publishes it he said hey it would

3083
02:26:13,660 --> 02:26:11,020
be totally deniable I couldn't prove it

3084
02:26:15,640 --> 02:26:13,670
he said to me I can't prove to you that

3085
02:26:18,340 --> 02:26:15,650
they're on it I just I know that they

3086
02:26:20,350 --> 02:26:18,350
are and it would be totally deniable and

3087
02:26:22,810 --> 02:26:20,360
then be it would be traced to me and I

3088
02:26:25,270 --> 02:26:22,820
would lose all access to the information

3089
02:26:28,030 --> 02:26:25,280
that I'm trying to get and I think that

3090
02:26:30,550 --> 02:26:28,040
that's not an unusual situation for a

3091
02:26:32,890 --> 02:26:30,560
lot of these people you know how do they

3092
02:26:35,020 --> 02:26:32,900
have they may have knowledge but do they

3093
02:26:37,200 --> 02:26:35,030
have proof can they really prove it to

3094
02:26:41,140 --> 02:26:37,210
the world and it may not be that easy

3095
02:26:44,211 --> 02:26:41,150
these trusts they okay look Richard I

3096
02:26:46,581 --> 02:26:44,221
know it's early in the morning out there

3097
02:26:48,411 --> 02:26:46,591
we're heading towards a commercial you

3098
02:26:51,140 --> 02:26:48,421
know that I'm gonna ask you to hang on

3099
02:26:53,270 --> 02:26:51,150
for a few more minutes after this and we

3100
02:26:55,341 --> 02:26:53,280
can't end the conversation here it's

3101
02:26:56,781 --> 02:26:55,351
that's impossible but that's what we do

3102
02:27:00,291 --> 02:26:56,791
every time you're on the show and and

3103
02:27:04,131 --> 02:27:00,301
that's what happens but and before we

3104
02:27:06,951 --> 02:27:04,141
get to the break do you as somebody

3105
02:27:10,371 --> 02:27:06,961
comes to you he's got he's got bars he's

3106
02:27:13,100 --> 02:27:10,381
got stars somebody comes to you and says

3107
02:27:17,381 --> 02:27:13,110
okay Richard here you go we are ready

3108
02:27:20,631 --> 02:27:17,391
I'm going to bring do you at any point

3109
02:27:25,821 --> 02:27:20,641
trust the defense intelligence

3110
02:27:30,171 --> 02:27:25,831
establishment in in any way I guess I

3111
02:27:32,331 --> 02:27:30,181
would I would trust some people yes and

3112
02:27:36,051 --> 02:27:32,341
but I've also been lied to so I would

3113
02:27:38,150 --> 02:27:36,061
know not to trust everyone so it's a

3114
02:27:40,041 --> 02:27:38,160
case-by-case I mean I think it's naive

3115
02:27:42,171 --> 02:27:40,051
honestly to think that everyone in the

3116
02:27:44,211 --> 02:27:42,181
military lies I think it's naive to

3117
02:27:45,680 --> 02:27:44,221
think everyone in the CIA lies it's just

3118
02:27:48,230 --> 02:27:45,690
I don't think that's not that's not how

3119
02:27:52,270 --> 02:27:48,240
the world is it's it's more accurate to

3120
02:27:55,371 --> 02:27:52,280
say that there is truth and there's also

3121
02:27:58,190 --> 02:27:55,381
deception in those worlds and and not

3122
02:27:59,361 --> 02:27:58,200
always an equal amounts so you have to

3123
02:28:01,730 --> 02:27:59,371
you know we have to keep our thinking

3124
02:28:04,131 --> 02:28:01,740
caps on but it's I don't like these

3125
02:28:06,201 --> 02:28:04,141
simple you know knee-jerk responses like

3126
02:28:08,511 --> 02:28:06,211
oh yeah like if they're from the DIA or

3127
02:28:10,850 --> 02:28:08,521
the CIA then they must be lying

3128
02:28:12,890 --> 02:28:10,860
like no I mean it's not really that

3129
02:28:16,041 --> 02:28:12,900
doesn't follow to me but they could be

3130
02:28:17,781 --> 02:28:16,051
lying so you have to just gauge the

3131
02:28:20,480 --> 02:28:17,791
information as it comes to you yeah no

3132
02:28:23,781 --> 02:28:20,490
other way no easy way out it goes back

3133
02:28:26,261 --> 02:28:23,791
to you know the the Gorbachev Reagan era

3134
02:28:29,810 --> 02:28:26,271
you know the whole trust but verify

3135
02:28:31,730 --> 02:28:29,820
there there's a lot of validity to that

3136
02:28:33,201 --> 02:28:31,740
statement let's take a break right here

3137
02:28:37,281 --> 02:28:33,211
Richard I'm going to keep you over for a

3138
02:28:38,720 --> 02:28:37,291
few minutes and tell Tracy I'm sorry and

3139
02:28:41,001 --> 02:28:38,730
I beg her forgiveness but you're gonna

3140
02:28:43,251 --> 02:28:41,011
stay with us for a few more minutes yes

3141
02:28:44,801 --> 02:28:43,261
stay right there Richard Dolan is our

3142
02:28:47,121 --> 02:28:44,811
guest this is our fifth anniversary

3143
02:28:49,011 --> 02:28:47,131
Richard's not going anywhere I'll be

3144
02:28:49,340 --> 02:28:49,021
right back stay with us this is fade to

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02:29:17,070 --> 02:28:49,350
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02:29:20,110 --> 02:29:17,080
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3228
02:33:43,541 --> 02:33:41,261
welcome back fade to black fifth

3229
02:33:45,251 --> 02:33:43,551
anniversary special event Richard bleep

3230
02:33:45,940 --> 02:33:45,261
and Dolan is here we're gonna do some

3231
02:33:48,730 --> 02:33:45,950
overtime

3232
02:33:52,211 --> 02:33:48,740
you knew Richard wasn't gonna go

3233
02:33:53,650 --> 02:33:52,221
anywhere I kind of felt that to it

3234
02:33:56,440 --> 02:33:53,660
Richard okay here we are

3235
02:33:58,751 --> 02:33:56,450
or it's New Years is right around the

3236
02:34:02,831 --> 02:33:58,761
corner man we're at the end of a 2018

3237
02:34:04,331 --> 02:34:02,841
and the beginning of the year it seemed

3238
02:34:08,530 --> 02:34:04,341
a little bit different the door was

3239
02:34:12,400 --> 02:34:08,540
cracked disclosure was imminent it

3240
02:34:15,910 --> 02:34:12,410
seemed like 2018 was gonna be the year

3241
02:34:20,171 --> 02:34:15,920
and the community was pretty uppity back

3242
02:34:22,421 --> 02:34:20,181
in January for you do you feel a little

3243
02:34:26,381 --> 02:34:22,431
disappointed did you think this was

3244
02:34:29,470 --> 02:34:26,391
gonna be the year for disclosure no I

3245
02:34:30,700 --> 02:34:29,480
and I think if people were to go back

3246
02:34:34,001 --> 02:34:30,710
through any of the statements that I

3247
02:34:36,631 --> 02:34:34,011
made at the end of 2017 or throughout

3248
02:34:39,280 --> 02:34:36,641
2018 I I don't think I made any such

3249
02:34:41,350 --> 02:34:39,290
predictions that I thought things were

3250
02:34:44,171 --> 02:34:41,360
gonna happen or break I just I've

3251
02:34:49,120 --> 02:34:44,181
actually never we've we've weathered

3252
02:34:51,640 --> 02:34:49,130
through a lot of you know these types of

3253
02:34:53,950 --> 02:34:51,650
events over the past 20 plus years and

3254
02:34:56,051 --> 02:34:53,960
I've just never thought it's it's on the

3255
02:34:58,930 --> 02:34:56,061
the verge I do believe that there will

3256
02:35:02,770 --> 02:34:58,940
be a disclosure at some point probably

3257
02:35:03,730 --> 02:35:02,780
in my lifetime but I I've never been at

3258
02:35:06,070 --> 02:35:03,740
the point where I thought it's gonna

3259
02:35:08,801 --> 02:35:06,080
happen any moment now what happened last

3260
02:35:13,240 --> 02:35:08,811
year with the the revelation of the a

3261
02:35:15,341 --> 02:35:13,250
tip program was that is significant and

3262
02:35:17,410 --> 02:35:15,351
that remains significant in my mind you

3263
02:35:19,541 --> 02:35:17,420
know we have it's been a year and we've

3264
02:35:22,841 --> 02:35:19,551
had a little bit of time to digest it

3265
02:35:25,810 --> 02:35:22,851
and while it hasn't amounted to an

3266
02:35:28,060 --> 02:35:25,820
official disclosure obviously it's also

3267
02:35:32,051 --> 02:35:28,070
not insignificant I think we can all

3268
02:35:35,081 --> 02:35:32,061
agree like the the the public discourse

3269
02:35:38,620 --> 02:35:35,091
is different as a result of that

3270
02:35:39,910 --> 02:35:38,630
admission so I think there's something

3271
02:35:42,970 --> 02:35:39,920
about it

3272
02:35:45,011 --> 02:35:42,980
and I I think that we're in an era of

3273
02:35:47,650 --> 02:35:45,021
what I've been calling a drip drip of

3274
02:35:50,020 --> 02:35:47,660
disclosure in other words there's

3275
02:35:52,179 --> 02:35:50,030
there's enough pressure from our society

3276
02:35:54,370 --> 02:35:52,189
in general

3277
02:35:58,300 --> 02:35:54,380
all sectors of our society that includes

3278
02:36:02,290 --> 02:35:58,310
within government and scientific bodies

3279
02:36:05,109 --> 02:36:02,300
to some extent that are causing

3280
02:36:08,380 --> 02:36:05,119
information to come out because the fact

3281
02:36:11,099 --> 02:36:08,390
is this isn't 1980 we're in a different

3282
02:36:14,290 --> 02:36:11,109
era we're in a completely digitized age

3283
02:36:17,229 --> 02:36:14,300
where we are able to share information

3284
02:36:19,120 --> 02:36:17,239
in ways that were not conceivable to

3285
02:36:23,529 --> 02:36:19,130
earlier generations and as a result it's

3286
02:36:27,130 --> 02:36:23,539
causing pressure from from society in

3287
02:36:29,739 --> 02:36:27,140
general and those people with the secret

3288
02:36:32,739 --> 02:36:29,749
are being forced into a position of

3289
02:36:35,349 --> 02:36:32,749
having to adapt to that and that's

3290
02:36:36,670 --> 02:36:35,359
causing not an admission or

3291
02:36:38,199 --> 02:36:36,680
acknowledgment that they have to let the

3292
02:36:40,689 --> 02:36:38,209
secret out and just give it all up no

3293
02:36:44,199 --> 02:36:40,699
but it does cause an acknowledgement

3294
02:36:47,559 --> 02:36:44,209
that they have to give up little bits

3295
02:36:49,059 --> 02:36:47,569
here and there to to deal with it this

3296
02:36:51,609 --> 02:36:49,069
is why the New York Times covered the

3297
02:36:54,639 --> 02:36:51,619
story the way they did they I'm

3298
02:36:55,899 --> 02:36:54,649
convinced of this now that it's not not

3299
02:36:57,130 --> 02:36:55,909
the authors of the article they had

3300
02:36:58,750 --> 02:36:57,140
nothing to do with this not Helene

3301
02:37:01,420 --> 02:36:58,760
Cooper not Leslie Kane not Ralph

3302
02:37:06,370 --> 02:37:01,430
Blumenthal but the leadership of the New

3303
02:37:09,099 --> 02:37:06,380
York Times knew that information about

3304
02:37:11,859 --> 02:37:09,109
this program was going to come out they

3305
02:37:15,130 --> 02:37:11,869
knew that information about the David

3306
02:37:18,279 --> 02:37:15,140
flavour UFO case was going to come out

3307
02:37:20,290 --> 02:37:18,289
and they allowed that story to be

3308
02:37:22,689 --> 02:37:20,300
written so that they could control the

3309
02:37:25,540 --> 02:37:22,699
spin on that story which they did a

3310
02:37:27,309 --> 02:37:25,550
really good job of that so in a sense it

3311
02:37:29,830 --> 02:37:27,319
was a bit of damage control and you and

3312
02:37:33,880 --> 02:37:29,840
I even talked about that earlier in 2018

3313
02:37:35,889 --> 02:37:33,890
but but but even so even though that

3314
02:37:37,809 --> 02:37:35,899
article was damage control and that

3315
02:37:41,949 --> 02:37:37,819
article was spin and to some extent it

3316
02:37:43,870 --> 02:37:41,959
was even deceptive it was still moving

3317
02:37:47,439 --> 02:37:43,880
the ball forward down the field for us

3318
02:37:49,330 --> 02:37:47,449
like it still was because despite the

3319
02:37:51,219 --> 02:37:49,340
fact that there was a lot of information

3320
02:37:52,739 --> 02:37:51,229
that was missing and even incorrect

3321
02:37:58,479 --> 02:37:52,749
about it

3322
02:38:01,929 --> 02:37:58,489
UFOs became acknowledged again as a

3323
02:38:03,670 --> 02:38:01,939
thing as a real thing in our society

3324
02:38:05,951 --> 02:38:03,680
that we're able to talk about in ways

3325
02:38:08,171 --> 02:38:05,961
that it was not as easy to do that

3326
02:38:11,801 --> 02:38:08,181
before that so so we're in a different

3327
02:38:15,511 --> 02:38:11,811
situation we're not in disclosure but I

3328
02:38:19,031 --> 02:38:15,521
I am of the opinion that there will be

3329
02:38:21,640 --> 02:38:19,041
such a disclosure moment I just the

3330
02:38:24,341 --> 02:38:21,650
thing that I don't know and I can't know

3331
02:38:26,440 --> 02:38:24,351
is what's the mechanism that will

3332
02:38:29,831 --> 02:38:26,450
trigger such a disclosure I mean I

3333
02:38:31,901 --> 02:38:29,841
co-authored a book years ago on on the

3334
02:38:33,491 --> 02:38:31,911
various mechanisms that might trigger a

3335
02:38:36,310 --> 02:38:33,501
disclosure would it be a sighting that's

3336
02:38:38,261 --> 02:38:36,320
unavoidable would it be a leak that is

3337
02:38:40,651 --> 02:38:38,271
undeniable or would it be some other

3338
02:38:43,631 --> 02:38:40,661
some other event an accident an insider

3339
02:38:46,781 --> 02:38:43,641
who decides to let it out

3340
02:38:49,531 --> 02:38:46,791
I don't know but I think that in any of

3341
02:38:51,911 --> 02:38:49,541
the cases it will be as a result of the

3342
02:38:54,970 --> 02:38:51,921
increasing amounts of pressure and

3343
02:38:58,541 --> 02:38:54,980
capability by the population itself by

3344
02:39:00,520 --> 02:38:58,551
us to be able to record this phenomenon

3345
02:39:04,060 --> 02:39:00,530
be to be able to communicate about it

3346
02:39:05,801 --> 02:39:04,070
and to force this issue open so that's

3347
02:39:08,321 --> 02:39:05,811
why it's a drip drip you know those

3348
02:39:10,690 --> 02:39:08,331
those elites are aware they cannot keep

3349
02:39:13,901 --> 02:39:10,700
this secret forever they can't they know

3350
02:39:16,001 --> 02:39:13,911
they can't and so they'll let a little

3351
02:39:19,180 --> 02:39:16,011
bit out when they have to bit by bit by

3352
02:39:23,440 --> 02:39:19,190
bit by bit but by kicking the can right

3353
02:39:26,770 --> 02:39:23,450
down the road further and further and

3354
02:39:29,261 --> 02:39:26,780
delaying it you know I I enjoy the drip

3355
02:39:31,810 --> 02:39:29,271
drip we're all in this together

3356
02:39:35,140 --> 02:39:31,820
but by kicking the can down the road

3357
02:39:36,881 --> 02:39:35,150
what's the advantage in that I mean

3358
02:39:39,100 --> 02:39:36,891
that's the part that I'm trying to

3359
02:39:41,140 --> 02:39:39,110
resolve for myself well there's there's

3360
02:39:42,791 --> 02:39:41,150
an advantage for them for those secret

3361
02:39:44,651 --> 02:39:42,801
keepers because the longer you keep the

3362
02:39:46,390 --> 02:39:44,661
secret the more power you have the more

3363
02:39:48,451 --> 02:39:46,400
money you can make the more influence

3364
02:39:51,341 --> 02:39:48,461
you know behind the scenes you can wield

3365
02:39:52,751 --> 02:39:51,351
so there if they can keep it for another

3366
02:39:54,701 --> 02:39:52,761
ten years they'll do that if they can

3367
02:39:56,350 --> 02:39:54,711
keep it another 50 years they'll do that

3368
02:39:59,140 --> 02:39:56,360
if they can keep it for another century

3369
02:40:01,241 --> 02:39:59,150
they'll do that but the question is how

3370
02:40:03,581 --> 02:40:01,251
long can they keep it that's the real

3371
02:40:05,861 --> 02:40:03,591
question like if they could keep it

3372
02:40:08,230 --> 02:40:05,871
forever they would do that but I don't

3373
02:40:09,640 --> 02:40:08,240
think that's possible so for them to

3374
02:40:11,350 --> 02:40:09,650
kick the can down the road like they'll

3375
02:40:14,560 --> 02:40:11,360
kick that can as long as they can kick

3376
02:40:17,381 --> 02:40:14,570
that can because secrecy is power and

3377
02:40:19,510 --> 02:40:17,391
power is money like if you've got if

3378
02:40:20,800 --> 02:40:19,520
you've got acquired technology

3379
02:40:23,590 --> 02:40:20,810
that doesn't originate from this

3380
02:40:26,410 --> 02:40:23,600
civilization and you have restricted

3381
02:40:29,830 --> 02:40:26,420
access to studying it well why why would

3382
02:40:31,450 --> 02:40:29,840
you ever share that access with anyone

3383
02:40:34,240 --> 02:40:31,460
else you're holding the future in your

3384
02:40:37,000 --> 02:40:34,250
hands that's an amazing amount of power

3385
02:40:39,460 --> 02:40:37,010
and money and opportunity like you'll

3386
02:40:40,899 --> 02:40:39,470
never give it up and I think that's the

3387
02:40:45,969 --> 02:40:40,909
situation that we're finding ourselves

3388
02:40:48,670 --> 02:40:45,979
in the sighting that I had up at ESET II

3389
02:40:51,700 --> 02:40:48,680
as crazy as it sounds and everything

3390
02:40:53,889 --> 02:40:51,710
else well it actually happened but the

3391
02:40:58,540 --> 02:40:53,899
frigging thing happened up at East SETI

3392
02:41:02,050 --> 02:40:58,550
right of a forest in the middle of

3393
02:41:04,420 --> 02:41:02,060
nowhere if that happened over Los

3394
02:41:07,899 --> 02:41:04,430
Angeles it would be case closed

3395
02:41:10,120 --> 02:41:07,909
and and that is a situation where not

3396
02:41:11,790 --> 02:41:10,130
only is a case closed but all of the

3397
02:41:14,349 --> 02:41:11,800
things that we are talking about now

3398
02:41:16,510 --> 02:41:14,359
that technology and kicking the can down

3399
02:41:20,130 --> 02:41:16,520
the road and the petrol dollars and and

3400
02:41:25,630 --> 02:41:20,140
and the money and the infrastruc ture

3401
02:41:28,569 --> 02:41:25,640
crashing immediate halt yeah it's true

3402
02:41:34,090 --> 02:41:28,579
so that tells us that these other beings

3403
02:41:35,439 --> 02:41:34,100
maybe they don't really want to be the

3404
02:41:36,460 --> 02:41:35,449
center of attention and they don't want

3405
02:41:39,250 --> 02:41:36,470
to reveal themselves

3406
02:41:41,160 --> 02:41:39,260
maybe there's a clandestine element to

3407
02:41:43,149 --> 02:41:41,170
what they are doing you know I mentioned

3408
02:41:46,269 --> 02:41:43,159
David Jacobs earlier in this

3409
02:41:48,639 --> 02:41:46,279
conversation and I mentioned it because

3410
02:41:51,160 --> 02:41:48,649
I again I had a recent conversation with

3411
02:41:52,899 --> 02:41:51,170
him but that's his opinion they're

3412
02:41:55,389 --> 02:41:52,909
they're here in a clandestine mission

3413
02:41:58,269 --> 02:41:55,399
and they do it's not a good mission by

3414
02:42:00,340 --> 02:41:58,279
the way and they do not want to be found

3415
02:42:04,210 --> 02:42:00,350
out but then you would ask well why do

3416
02:42:05,710 --> 02:42:04,220
we see them at all and the we don't I

3417
02:42:07,240 --> 02:42:05,720
don't have the exact answer to that but

3418
02:42:10,179 --> 02:42:07,250
one answer might be they're not

3419
02:42:12,340 --> 02:42:10,189
infallible they they do their best but

3420
02:42:13,090 --> 02:42:12,350
they can still be seen that's one

3421
02:42:16,889 --> 02:42:13,100
possibility

3422
02:42:19,319 --> 02:42:16,899
there's actually a substantial

3423
02:42:22,380 --> 02:42:19,329
infrastructure of them out there and

3424
02:42:25,540 --> 02:42:22,390
they do what they can to conceal it but

3425
02:42:27,490 --> 02:42:25,550
you know we we see there's enough of

3426
02:42:30,279 --> 02:42:27,500
them out there that we we see them every

3427
02:42:32,979 --> 02:42:30,289
now and then and what do we do with see

3428
02:42:36,840 --> 02:42:32,989
there's you mentioned hive mind

3429
02:42:40,840 --> 02:42:36,850
a few times and then we have a crazy

3430
02:42:42,969 --> 02:42:40,850
situation here that involves what

3431
02:42:45,699 --> 02:42:42,979
appears to me to be you know literally

3432
02:42:48,279 --> 02:42:45,709
millions of people on this planet that

3433
02:42:52,689 --> 02:42:48,289
are talking about receiving messages or

3434
02:42:55,869 --> 02:42:52,699
channeling information abductions and

3435
02:42:58,119 --> 02:42:55,879
and visitations this isn't a few hundred

3436
02:43:03,219 --> 02:42:58,129
people we're talking about a big chunk

3437
02:43:05,559 --> 02:43:03,229
of civilians here that that are are

3438
02:43:09,069 --> 02:43:05,569
speaking about this is that the hive

3439
02:43:12,099 --> 02:43:09,079
mind is that you know it is is that part

3440
02:43:14,679 --> 02:43:12,109
of our reality because not all of these

3441
02:43:17,229 --> 02:43:14,689
people are crazy which is the way that

3442
02:43:19,059 --> 02:43:17,239
they are labeled no no they're not all

3443
02:43:22,659 --> 02:43:19,069
crazy it's an interesting phenomenon

3444
02:43:24,039 --> 02:43:22,669
this whole idea of the Downloads and you

3445
02:43:26,199 --> 02:43:24,049
know telepathic connection with these

3446
02:43:27,699 --> 02:43:26,209
other beings and I'm gonna be perfectly

3447
02:43:33,039 --> 02:43:27,709
honest with you and tell you I've never

3448
02:43:35,439 --> 02:43:33,049
known how fully to grapple with this

3449
02:43:37,599 --> 02:43:35,449
because I mean there's a number of these

3450
02:43:40,269 --> 02:43:37,609
people I've spoken to and I simply do

3451
02:43:42,249 --> 02:43:40,279
not believe them I'm just gonna tell you

3452
02:43:43,779 --> 02:43:42,259
right now I don't believe them all I

3453
02:43:45,880 --> 02:43:43,789
think some of them are completely full

3454
02:43:48,460 --> 02:43:45,890
of it they may believe themselves but I

3455
02:43:50,409 --> 02:43:48,470
don't believe them however there are

3456
02:43:52,809 --> 02:43:50,419
people out there who I I do believe them

3457
02:43:55,779 --> 02:43:52,819
like I'm look I'm married to a remote

3458
02:43:59,380 --> 02:43:55,789
viewer I I don't need to be persuaded

3459
02:44:03,399 --> 02:43:59,390
that we have capabilities that are like

3460
02:44:06,309 --> 02:44:03,409
that so so I have to ask myself what is

3461
02:44:09,309 --> 02:44:06,319
going on when people are having these

3462
02:44:10,510 --> 02:44:09,319
telepathic connections but I want to go

3463
02:44:14,769 --> 02:44:10,520
back to the hive mind thing for a minute

3464
02:44:16,749 --> 02:44:14,779
because if you if you assume that there

3465
02:44:18,939 --> 02:44:16,759
that this society that we're dealing

3466
02:44:21,369 --> 02:44:18,949
with is very telepathic and there's a

3467
02:44:25,989 --> 02:44:21,379
lot of reasons to think that that's the

3468
02:44:28,059 --> 02:44:25,999
case then how would you not have a hive

3469
02:44:29,289 --> 02:44:28,069
mind right because everyone's telepathic

3470
02:44:31,179 --> 02:44:29,299
you kind of know what everyone's

3471
02:44:35,729 --> 02:44:31,189
thinking that's right it would almost by

3472
02:44:37,599 --> 02:44:35,739
its very nature create a hive mind where

3473
02:44:40,960 --> 02:44:37,609
you had no privacy

3474
02:44:43,300 --> 02:44:40,970
you've got no that you get it's a total

3475
02:44:44,590 --> 02:44:43,310
conformist type of society it would be

3476
02:44:46,600 --> 02:44:44,600
very difficult it would seem to me to

3477
02:44:49,120 --> 02:44:46,610
have a lot of

3478
02:44:50,650 --> 02:44:49,130
real individuality when everyone knows

3479
02:44:52,211 --> 02:44:50,660
everyone else's thoughts like and

3480
02:44:55,091 --> 02:44:52,221
everyone else can get into your thoughts

3481
02:44:56,680 --> 02:44:55,101
as well you know because if if

3482
02:44:58,390 --> 02:44:56,690
everyone's telepathic then you have to

3483
02:44:59,801 --> 02:44:58,400
ask yourself to what extent are your

3484
02:45:03,310 --> 02:44:59,811
thoughts your own you don't even know

3485
02:45:05,230 --> 02:45:03,320
it's a pretty noisy room it would be a

3486
02:45:07,150 --> 02:45:05,240
world that like I would never want to

3487
02:45:08,921 --> 02:45:07,160
live in that world I hear people say oh

3488
02:45:11,200 --> 02:45:08,931
yeah where we're gonna move on to the

3489
02:45:12,700 --> 02:45:11,210
next evolution in that evolutionary

3490
02:45:15,791 --> 02:45:12,710
stage and we'll be telepathic and I'm

3491
02:45:17,650 --> 02:45:15,801
like are you out of your mind like who

3492
02:45:19,600 --> 02:45:17,660
would want that that's that's a

3493
02:45:21,490 --> 02:45:19,610
prescription for insanity in my opinion

3494
02:45:24,011 --> 02:45:21,500
or never you want someone crawling

3495
02:45:27,961 --> 02:45:24,021
inside your head good luck with that but

3496
02:45:30,700 --> 02:45:27,971
it's also a very easy way to create a

3497
02:45:32,921 --> 02:45:30,710
totally conformist so by the way we're

3498
02:45:36,280 --> 02:45:32,931
moving into it ourselves anyway you know

3499
02:45:39,070 --> 02:45:36,290
whether the aliens connect with us or

3500
02:45:43,150 --> 02:45:39,080
not where our technology next generation

3501
02:45:45,251 --> 02:45:43,160
5g technology 24/7 surveillance total

3502
02:45:48,070 --> 02:45:45,261
you know monitoring and intimidation of

3503
02:45:50,020 --> 02:45:48,080
people through digital networks and you

3504
02:45:53,381 --> 02:45:50,030
know your computer trail your digital

3505
02:45:55,541 --> 02:45:53,391
trail we're moving into a world frankly

3506
02:45:58,511 --> 02:45:55,551
within the next 10 years in which

3507
02:46:00,761 --> 02:45:58,521
there's virtually going to be it's like

3508
02:46:02,410 --> 02:46:00,771
a virtually telepathic Society and there

3509
02:46:06,400 --> 02:46:02,420
will be no privacy and people will be

3510
02:46:08,110 --> 02:46:06,410
completely cowed by the culture by

3511
02:46:10,001 --> 02:46:08,120
Authority we're already seeing it happen

3512
02:46:12,910 --> 02:46:10,011
you know China's rolling out their

3513
02:46:14,530 --> 02:46:12,920
Social Credit System we think we're that

3514
02:46:16,560 --> 02:46:14,540
far away from it you give it 10 years

3515
02:46:19,270 --> 02:46:16,570
we're already there any way with the

3516
02:46:22,751 --> 02:46:19,280
whole phenomenon of cultural shaming and

3517
02:46:23,980 --> 02:46:22,761
Facebook and D platforming and so you

3518
02:46:25,841 --> 02:46:23,990
just wait it's gonna get even worse so

3519
02:46:29,320 --> 02:46:25,851
we're moving toward we're moving toward

3520
02:46:31,990 --> 02:46:29,330
this kind of you know hive mind

3521
02:46:35,020 --> 02:46:32,000
ourselves maybe it's a natural part of

3522
02:46:36,970 --> 02:46:35,030
evolution really a bad one but maybe

3523
02:46:39,270 --> 02:46:36,980
that's what we're dealing with well see

3524
02:46:43,270 --> 02:46:39,280
this is this is what is so interesting

3525
02:46:46,421 --> 02:46:43,280
by that that thought is this at the

3526
02:46:49,390 --> 02:46:46,431
quantum level where we understand now

3527
02:46:53,520 --> 02:46:49,400
what entanglement really means and the

3528
02:46:56,950 --> 02:46:53,530
implications of that you know something

3529
02:46:59,350 --> 02:46:56,960
affecting something else not at the

3530
02:47:00,820 --> 02:46:59,360
speed of light but at the same time

3531
02:47:02,410 --> 02:47:00,830
right instant

3532
02:47:04,900 --> 02:47:02,420
well beyond speed-of-light it's an

3533
02:47:07,210 --> 02:47:04,910
incredible phenomenon it's incredible

3534
02:47:11,650 --> 02:47:07,220
and so when we talk about things like

3535
02:47:15,000 --> 02:47:11,660
telepathy and connections and the

3536
02:47:20,170 --> 02:47:15,010
ability to do this in real time not

3537
02:47:23,770 --> 02:47:20,180
speed of light but at the exact right it

3538
02:47:27,030 --> 02:47:23,780
this is where the channeling aspect of

3539
02:47:29,980 --> 02:47:27,040
it and the communication aspect of this

3540
02:47:32,340 --> 02:47:29,990
with ET for me makes a whole lot of

3541
02:47:35,140 --> 02:47:32,350
sense in that it doesn't have to happen

3542
02:47:38,560 --> 02:47:35,150
with somebody that's in orbit around

3543
02:47:41,460 --> 02:47:38,570
planet Earth on some invisible spaceship

3544
02:47:45,070 --> 02:47:41,470
but it could happen from Alpha Centauri

3545
02:47:47,140 --> 02:47:45,080
right and if you accept a quantum

3546
02:47:49,750 --> 02:47:47,150
mechanics of quantum theory and an

3547
02:47:54,761 --> 02:47:49,760
entanglement which we know it's been

3548
02:47:57,520 --> 02:47:54,771
proven to be real then that type of

3549
02:47:59,590 --> 02:47:57,530
communication is as real as anything

3550
02:48:02,170 --> 02:47:59,600
else and that's where I have a hard time

3551
02:48:04,180 --> 02:48:02,180
there there are those out there that are

3552
02:48:06,970 --> 02:48:04,190
completely full of it I totally agree

3553
02:48:10,540 --> 02:48:06,980
with you and that's absolutely there are

3554
02:48:12,490 --> 02:48:10,550
you live you live on the west coast my

3555
02:48:16,840 --> 02:48:12,500
neighbor I'm communicating with them

3556
02:48:19,840 --> 02:48:16,850
yeah but but that this there it's

3557
02:48:21,820 --> 02:48:19,850
happening too much with too many with

3558
02:48:23,770 --> 02:48:21,830
that and that's that's the thing and

3559
02:48:27,490 --> 02:48:23,780
could it be deception going back to

3560
02:48:29,680 --> 02:48:27,500
David Jacobs and others you know it's

3561
02:48:32,051 --> 02:48:29,690
maybe I would like to address something

3562
02:48:34,330 --> 02:48:32,061
you just said which was really

3563
02:48:37,110 --> 02:48:34,340
interesting so you you made a really

3564
02:48:39,460 --> 02:48:37,120
good point if people are getting at

3565
02:48:41,080 --> 02:48:39,470
let's say telepathic download or a

3566
02:48:42,551 --> 02:48:41,090
connection why would it have to be from

3567
02:48:47,520 --> 02:48:42,561
a ship in Earth orbit why couldn't it be

3568
02:48:49,870 --> 02:48:47,530
from a much farther farther place well

3569
02:48:51,370 --> 02:48:49,880
remember earlier in our conversation we

3570
02:48:53,130 --> 02:48:51,380
were talking I brought up the whole

3571
02:48:56,680 --> 02:48:53,140
thing about how our brains are smaller

3572
02:48:59,200 --> 02:48:56,690
than that of our prehistoric ancestors

3573
02:49:01,120 --> 02:48:59,210
and this is verifiable there's there's

3574
02:49:04,090 --> 02:49:01,130
no question about it it's ten to fifteen

3575
02:49:06,340 --> 02:49:04,100
percent smaller I liken it to the amount

3576
02:49:09,520 --> 02:49:06,350
of taken out by an ice cream scoop from

3577
02:49:11,560 --> 02:49:09,530
their brain so I had an interesting chat

3578
02:49:13,720 --> 02:49:11,570
with one researcher some time ago who

3579
02:49:14,490 --> 02:49:13,730
did a lot of work on gobekli tepe

3580
02:49:17,900 --> 02:49:14,500
and also

3581
02:49:22,230 --> 02:49:17,910
ancient whole ancient astronaut theory

3582
02:49:27,420 --> 02:49:22,240
phenomenon he's out of Tasmania his name

3583
02:49:29,250 --> 02:49:27,430
is Gordon Gordon white Gordon white love

3584
02:49:31,500 --> 02:49:29,260
this guy anyway he had an interesting

3585
02:49:35,910 --> 02:49:31,510
idea and he had a book called starships

3586
02:49:39,540 --> 02:49:35,920
that's it and he said what if ancient

3587
02:49:43,290 --> 02:49:39,550
ancient contact wasn't in the form of

3588
02:49:45,000 --> 02:49:43,300
aliens landing and meeting with people

3589
02:49:48,660 --> 02:49:45,010
and telling thing but what if ancient

3590
02:49:51,390 --> 02:49:48,670
contact wasn't a form of telepathy or

3591
02:49:54,360 --> 02:49:51,400
what we would call magic or some kind of

3592
02:49:57,480 --> 02:49:54,370
consciousness connection with human

3593
02:50:00,930 --> 02:49:57,490
beings who had larger more significant

3594
02:50:06,500 --> 02:50:00,940
brains maybe that part of their mind was

3595
02:50:08,610 --> 02:50:06,510
much more psychic much more in tune with

3596
02:50:13,260 --> 02:50:08,620
elements of the environment I bet it was

3597
02:50:16,290 --> 02:50:13,270
it have to be to be a functioning person

3598
02:50:19,050 --> 02:50:16,300
in a hunter-gatherer society you needed

3599
02:50:20,550 --> 02:50:19,060
to be able to be completely in tune with

3600
02:50:25,080 --> 02:50:20,560
the world around you in every way and

3601
02:50:27,060 --> 02:50:25,090
that might very well include a mode that

3602
02:50:29,730 --> 02:50:27,070
we would call psychic so maybe we're

3603
02:50:32,700 --> 02:50:29,740
like psychically crippled compared with

3604
02:50:36,900 --> 02:50:32,710
those ancient people and what if mrs.

3605
02:50:38,550 --> 02:50:36,910
Gordon's idea they were actually you

3606
02:50:41,370 --> 02:50:38,560
know like when you talk about the Dogon

3607
02:50:43,800 --> 02:50:41,380
and their connection with the beings

3608
02:50:46,350 --> 02:50:43,810
from Sirius a and B and so forth and

3609
02:50:49,110 --> 02:50:46,360
that whole story well is it really

3610
02:50:50,850 --> 02:50:49,120
likely that extraterrestrials with land

3611
02:50:53,280 --> 02:50:50,860
and talked to the Dogon and give them

3612
02:50:55,530 --> 02:50:53,290
astronomical information like that or

3613
02:50:57,750 --> 02:50:55,540
would it be more likely that ancient

3614
02:51:00,210 --> 02:50:57,760
people would have had a telepathic

3615
02:51:02,370 --> 02:51:00,220
connection in one way and gotten that

3616
02:51:05,880 --> 02:51:02,380
information somehow and then written it

3617
02:51:08,430 --> 02:51:05,890
out like that's interesting to me so and

3618
02:51:11,010 --> 02:51:08,440
indeed consciousness this is the one

3619
02:51:14,100 --> 02:51:11,020
crazy thing that we need really to

3620
02:51:18,120 --> 02:51:14,110
incorporate consciousness doesn't seem

3621
02:51:21,120 --> 02:51:18,130
to have space and time limits does it no

3622
02:51:22,590 --> 02:51:21,130
it's beyond that so in a sense what

3623
02:51:24,960 --> 02:51:22,600
you're saying is totally true and and

3624
02:51:26,160 --> 02:51:24,970
this is the one thing this is that keeps

3625
02:51:29,910 --> 02:51:26,170
me from too

3626
02:51:33,750 --> 02:51:29,920
missing some of the most you know really

3627
02:51:36,540 --> 02:51:33,760
far out new agey channelers people that

3628
02:51:40,800 --> 02:51:36,550
I think uh I just I roll honestly it's

3629
02:51:43,440 --> 02:51:40,810
just a big I roll for me but is it

3630
02:51:46,260 --> 02:51:43,450
really impossible and I have to say it

3631
02:51:51,480 --> 02:51:46,270
isn't impossible in every case that

3632
02:51:54,690 --> 02:51:51,490
someone may be contacted by an

3633
02:51:57,630 --> 02:51:54,700
intelligence from far far away so for

3634
02:52:00,350 --> 02:51:57,640
that reason I I keep my mind open like I

3635
02:52:03,780 --> 02:52:00,360
have to him we have what happened to me

3636
02:52:08,190 --> 02:52:03,790
you know Chandler's I've had many on the

3637
02:52:10,230 --> 02:52:08,200
show and and one that and this was years

3638
02:52:13,830 --> 02:52:10,240
ago Richard two years ago

3639
02:52:15,990 --> 02:52:13,840
Darryl ANCA who you know his you know

3640
02:52:17,880 --> 02:52:16,000
one of the one of the one of the biggest

3641
02:52:21,600 --> 02:52:17,890
Chandler's out the shower yeah you have

3642
02:52:26,040 --> 02:52:21,610
the shower great guy anyway years ago

3643
02:52:29,730 --> 02:52:26,050
years ago for a while ago I heard him he

3644
02:52:31,980 --> 02:52:29,740
was channeling Bashar and he expected or

3645
02:52:34,980 --> 02:52:31,990
stuck after disclosure just wanna say

3646
02:52:37,350 --> 02:52:34,990
did you get an autograph no that would

3647
02:52:40,620 --> 02:52:37,360
be nice but anyway the endorsement was

3648
02:52:43,740 --> 02:52:40,630
nice he did this explanation he did this

3649
02:52:46,560 --> 02:52:43,750
explanation of time travel and I went

3650
02:52:48,060 --> 02:52:46,570
and listened now different from anything

3651
02:52:49,380 --> 02:52:48,070
else that you've ever heard we don't

3652
02:52:51,929 --> 02:52:49,390
need to get into that we don't have the

3653
02:52:54,870 --> 02:52:51,939
time but I listen to it over and over

3654
02:52:56,520 --> 02:52:54,880
again and the more that I listen to it I

3655
02:52:59,929 --> 02:52:56,530
just thought to my you know what that

3656
02:53:04,469 --> 02:52:59,939
came from off-planet that right there

3657
02:53:07,860 --> 02:53:04,479
that concept of time travel was was not

3658
02:53:10,920 --> 02:53:07,870
some science fiction mindset from here

3659
02:53:12,870 --> 02:53:10,930
it just simply wasn't and that's what I

3660
02:53:15,179 --> 02:53:12,880
just had to back up and try to figure

3661
02:53:17,219 --> 02:53:15,189
out possibly what is going on quantum

3662
02:53:20,850 --> 02:53:17,229
theory and entanglement came later and

3663
02:53:23,130 --> 02:53:20,860
and for me it explains a lot it

3664
02:53:26,250 --> 02:53:23,140
it's though it opens the door to the

3665
02:53:28,350 --> 02:53:26,260
possibility of an explanation for what

3666
02:53:30,630 --> 02:53:28,360
so many people are apparently hearing

3667
02:53:32,219 --> 02:53:30,640
and connecting with well I would like to

3668
02:53:33,810 --> 02:53:32,229
read that explanation of time travel I

3669
02:53:36,810 --> 02:53:33,820
think would be interesting the thing is

3670
02:53:39,170 --> 02:53:36,820
channeling I can't dismiss it entirely I

3671
02:53:42,769 --> 02:53:39,180
just can't I'd like to but I can't

3672
02:53:46,399 --> 02:53:42,779
and and there's something that's going

3673
02:53:48,319 --> 02:53:46,409
on with that process like there's

3674
02:53:50,389 --> 02:53:48,329
something that's going on now what is it

3675
02:53:52,909 --> 02:53:50,399
that's going on I spoke to a channel or

3676
02:53:55,189 --> 02:53:52,919
a couple of months ago not long ago I

3677
02:53:58,939 --> 02:53:55,199
think he's like he's very serious and

3678
02:54:00,319 --> 02:53:58,949
dedicated and I liked what he had to say

3679
02:54:03,109 --> 02:54:00,329
about it because he said look I don't

3680
02:54:05,870 --> 02:54:03,119
really know what's going on when I do

3681
02:54:09,199 --> 02:54:05,880
this I don't know what it is I don't

3682
02:54:11,929 --> 02:54:09,209
know if I'm actually channeling some

3683
02:54:15,109 --> 02:54:11,939
other entity or if there's a part that's

3684
02:54:16,819 --> 02:54:15,119
deep inside me that's doing this or if

3685
02:54:21,979 --> 02:54:16,829
there's a part that's deep inside me

3686
02:54:25,849 --> 02:54:21,989
that's that's connecting with some other

3687
02:54:27,080 --> 02:54:25,859
in you know general intelligence out

3688
02:54:31,639 --> 02:54:27,090
there or is there something specific

3689
02:54:36,469 --> 02:54:31,649
like he didn't know and and he also I

3690
02:54:39,380 --> 02:54:36,479
thought had a very kind of just smart

3691
02:54:40,819 --> 02:54:39,390
attitude in in the sense that is that I

3692
02:54:42,739 --> 02:54:40,829
really know how much of this is true and

3693
02:54:45,559 --> 02:54:42,749
and how much of it is filtered through

3694
02:54:48,139 --> 02:54:45,569
my personality how much of it is

3695
02:54:50,599 --> 02:54:48,149
filtered through the things that I know

3696
02:54:53,090 --> 02:54:50,609
already you know what I mean because

3697
02:54:55,849 --> 02:54:53,100
it's really true like channelers you

3698
02:54:58,489 --> 02:54:55,859
can't we cannot deny this they speak it

3699
02:55:00,769 --> 02:54:58,499
very much in the cultural milieu that we

3700
02:55:03,679 --> 02:55:00,779
live in mm-hmm you know and I mean they

3701
02:55:06,559 --> 02:55:03,689
just do they speak in terms of the

3702
02:55:10,189 --> 02:55:06,569
culture that they live within they speak

3703
02:55:12,380 --> 02:55:10,199
within in the the kind of era that they

3704
02:55:14,229 --> 02:55:12,390
that they're living within I mean you

3705
02:55:17,210 --> 02:55:14,239
know I've never heard a channeler who's

3706
02:55:19,849 --> 02:55:17,220
speaking in in a completely

3707
02:55:21,260 --> 02:55:19,859
incomprehensible like the way you know

3708
02:55:22,609 --> 02:55:21,270
think about how different ancient Greek

3709
02:55:26,479 --> 02:55:22,619
would be and how differently they would

3710
02:55:30,260 --> 02:55:26,489
speak forget the language difference but

3711
02:55:32,210 --> 02:55:30,270
just the the mode of thinking it's very

3712
02:55:34,699 --> 02:55:32,220
different from how we aren't but yet all

3713
02:55:37,750 --> 02:55:34,709
Chandler's really speaking fairly

3714
02:55:41,779 --> 02:55:37,760
comprehensive all kind of contemporary

3715
02:55:46,189 --> 02:55:41,789
lingo so the point is like some of this

3716
02:55:48,050 --> 02:55:46,199
is definitely the the filter is the mine

3717
02:55:50,630 --> 02:55:48,060
of the person doing the channeling I

3718
02:55:52,840 --> 02:55:50,640
think there's no denying that so then

3719
02:55:55,340 --> 02:55:52,850
the question is what is the other part

3720
02:55:57,859 --> 02:55:55,350
where's that coming from and it's

3721
02:56:01,359 --> 02:55:57,869
interesting you know I would like to get

3722
02:56:03,260 --> 02:56:01,369
a channeler who's able to provide truly

3723
02:56:05,139 --> 02:56:03,270
verifiable information whether

3724
02:56:08,630 --> 02:56:05,149
mathematically whether in terms of

3725
02:56:11,080 --> 02:56:08,640
secret information about the history or

3726
02:56:15,950 --> 02:56:11,090
politics for that matter or some other

3727
02:56:18,769 --> 02:56:15,960
interesting verifiable information

3728
02:56:21,260 --> 02:56:18,779
rather than something other than how to

3729
02:56:23,960 --> 02:56:21,270
live your life in oneness with the rest

3730
02:56:25,309 --> 02:56:23,970
of humanity or you know platitudes you

3731
02:56:26,809 --> 02:56:25,319
know we're not interested in platitudes

3732
02:56:29,000 --> 02:56:26,819
I'm kind of done with that but I'm

3733
02:56:30,170 --> 02:56:29,010
interested in information so if a

3734
02:56:32,510 --> 02:56:30,180
channel that can provide me with

3735
02:56:33,500 --> 02:56:32,520
information I'm all ears you know it's

3736
02:56:36,139 --> 02:56:33,510
gonna be great

3737
02:56:38,300 --> 02:56:36,149
is I look forward to the next time you

3738
02:56:41,149 --> 02:56:38,310
and I are hanging out and you pulled me

3739
02:56:44,389 --> 02:56:41,159
aside to okay Church check us out I just

3740
02:56:47,420 --> 02:56:44,399
received a download and and Richard I'll

3741
02:56:50,450 --> 02:56:47,430
keep it to myself no if that were to

3742
02:56:53,719 --> 02:56:50,460
happen I would talk about it I would Jim

3743
02:56:57,319 --> 02:56:53,729
I'm way past the point of thinking I've

3744
02:56:58,639 --> 02:56:57,329
got to guard my myself publicly in this

3745
02:57:01,399 --> 02:56:58,649
way or that I don't care about that

3746
02:57:03,830 --> 02:57:01,409
anymore that was a part of my life I'm

3747
02:57:06,080 --> 02:57:03,840
done I'm serious

3748
02:57:08,000 --> 02:57:06,090
so I'm about one thing and only one

3749
02:57:11,179 --> 02:57:08,010
thing I want to be authentic I'm not

3750
02:57:13,370 --> 02:57:11,189
about BS I'm not about holding back I'm

3751
02:57:15,170 --> 02:57:13,380
gonna give my honest take on every

3752
02:57:18,649 --> 02:57:15,180
single thing that it that happens and

3753
02:57:20,059 --> 02:57:18,659
and that's it I'm telling you that's why

3754
02:57:24,319 --> 02:57:20,069
I care about it that's why you are

3755
02:57:26,630 --> 02:57:24,329
Richard bleep and Dolan short thank you

3756
02:57:28,490 --> 02:57:26,640
so much and and happy holidays and Merry

3757
02:57:29,840 --> 02:57:28,500
Christmas to you and Tracy I know she's

3758
02:57:31,429 --> 02:57:29,850
sitting right there thank you so much

3759
02:57:34,760 --> 02:57:31,439
Tracy for letting me keep your husband

3760
02:57:37,160 --> 02:57:34,770
into this overtime and just have a great

3761
02:57:38,870 --> 02:57:37,170
safe holiday season Richard and all the

3762
02:57:41,000 --> 02:57:38,880
best to you thank you so much you made

3763
02:57:42,649 --> 02:57:41,010
this show perfect thank you thank you

3764
02:57:44,960 --> 02:57:42,659
Jimmy it was a pleasure you're the best

3765
02:57:46,729 --> 02:57:44,970
Richard Dolan and of course it's all

3766
02:57:48,920 --> 02:57:46,739
right there Richard Dolan press the

3767
02:57:51,740 --> 02:57:48,930
links for Richard are over at Jimmy

3768
02:57:54,200 --> 02:57:51,750
Church radio.com we went to the bloody

3769
02:57:57,260 --> 02:57:54,210
end I've got a roll credits and get out

3770
02:57:59,210 --> 02:57:57,270
of here great fifth anniversary thanks

3771
02:58:00,710 --> 02:57:59,220
you thank you to everybody out there

3772
02:58:03,349 --> 02:58:00,720
that was hanging out with us tonight and

3773
02:58:04,880 --> 02:58:03,359
tomorrow night is Fator night open lines

3774
02:58:05,550 --> 02:58:04,890
all night long Theresa

3775
02:58:07,139 --> 02:58:05,560
Gennaro

3776
02:58:09,569 --> 02:58:07,149
is gonna be here with divine frequency

3777
02:58:12,300 --> 02:58:09,579
on the airwaves followed by open lines

3778
02:58:14,189 --> 02:58:12,310
all night long and you guys can all call

3779
02:58:16,349 --> 02:58:14,199
in and say yo what's up and we'll do

3780
02:58:19,019 --> 02:58:16,359
that all night tomorrow night with that

3781
02:58:23,160 --> 02:58:19,029
fade to black executive producer is Rita

3782
02:58:26,040 --> 02:58:23,170
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3783
02:58:28,469 --> 02:58:26,050
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3784
02:58:31,109 --> 02:58:28,479
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3785
02:58:33,389 --> 02:58:31,119
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3786
02:58:34,590 --> 02:58:33,399
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02:58:39,290 --> 02:58:34,600
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02:58:47,130 --> 02:58:45,310
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3790
02:58:49,380 --> 02:58:47,140
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02:58:51,300 --> 02:58:49,390
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02:58:53,099 --> 02:58:51,310
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02:58:55,500 --> 02:58:53,109
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3794
02:58:57,929 --> 02:58:55,510
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3795
02:59:00,780 --> 02:58:57,939
Church follow me on twitter @jj Church

3796
02:59:04,559 --> 02:59:00,790
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3797
02:59:06,950 --> 02:59:04,569
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3798
02:59:09,420 --> 02:59:06,960
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3799
02:59:11,880 --> 02:59:09,430
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3800
02:59:14,460 --> 02:59:11,890
comm with that I'll see everybody

3801
02:59:16,710 --> 02:59:14,470
tomorrow night Fator night until then

3802
02:59:26,320 --> 02:59:16,720
everybody be safe